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Re: Green energy [Re: Sheepdog1] #7751507
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People lived for thousands of years without fossil fuels.
People will still live when fossil fuels are no longer available.
Just a different lifestyle-not so decadent.
But fossil fuels sure are convenient.

Last edited by Boco; 12/22/22 10:28 PM.

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Re: Green energy [Re: Sheepdog1] #7751509
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Originally Posted by Sheepdog1
Ohhhh Sharon, that would be awesome. can we use #4 buckshot so as to have no cripples or survivors



You bet, Dave
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Re: Green energy [Re: MattLA] #7751512
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Originally Posted by MattLA
Which green energy policy bothers you so much and why? Is it just the rhetoric?

Here we Go.........


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Re: Green energy [Re: MattLA] #7751514
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Originally Posted by MattLA
Which green energy policy bothers you so much and why? Is it just the rhetoric?


the ones that MANDATE the changes.

let the free market decide.

Re: Green energy [Re: Sheepdog1] #7751525
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Nuclear is going to be the energy source of the future. Green power is just filling a battery with energy from another source.

Re: Green energy [Re: danvee] #7751530
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Originally Posted by danvee
Nuclear is going to be the energy source of the future. Green power is just filling a battery with energy from another source.


First time I think I agree with you.

Re: Green energy [Re: Boco] #7751572
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Originally Posted by Boco
People lived for thousands of years without fossil fuels.
People will still live when fossil fuels are no longer available.
Just a different lifestyle-not so decadent.
But fossil fuels sure are convenient.


I'm not buyin that there wasn't plenty of decadence before fossil fuels, and I'm not buyin it will be diminished after fossil fuels. But I believe you're correct about fossil fuel.

Fossil fuels are currently the energy on which the world's economy runs, eventually it will be replaced with something currently known or yet to be discovered/harnessed. I think what irritates a lot of us is that they are artificially changing the normal processes by mandates and subsidies. The market usually rewards innovation and ingenuity and somebody will invent a better energy mousetrap.
If one is all in for going green because of the subsidies you take from the rest of us, I'm not sure we're going to be sympathetic to your cause.
Does anybody know the green/ renewable/ sustainable energy plan for lubrication? If it goes around it needs lube, even the wind turbines take alot of oil. What's the replacement for lube oil if we're fossil fuel free?
What about all the plastic we use in the medical field and other critical uses? I can get by without my 20oz plastic cola bottle , but I'm kinda OK with that plastic bag of IV. What's the green energy replacement?

Re: Green energy [Re: Sheepdog1] #7751589
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the greenies also want to eliminate burning wood and cattle...both meat and dairy cattle along with pigs and other domesticated animals.


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Re: Green energy [Re: Marty] #7751596
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Originally Posted by Marty
the greenies also want to eliminate burning wood and cattle...both meat and dairy cattle along with pigs and other domesticated animals.

They'll be canibals


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Re: Green energy [Re: danvee] #7751599
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Biomass = generating electricity through burning wood in your stove is what im talking about. The greatest thing about solar is it uses the sun which every other living thing uses to generate energy. It also allows for passive generation with almost zero input except for some niche cases.

I think killing the power completely on sundays except for military only should be done. No work, no electricity for 24 hours, would be a great reset for folks.

Re: Green energy [Re: Sheepdog1] #7751602
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Not long ago they said “plant a tree, save the planet”


Fast forward too current times

Cut forests down, make pellets, transport pellets around the globe. Burn pellets too create electricity

Yay,,,,biomass/green energy!!

Australia just declassified biomass as green energy. They discovered biomass is worse than coal

https://news.mongabay.com/2022/12/a...s-in-first-blow-to-wood-pellet-industry/

Re: Green energy [Re: MattLA] #7751616
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Originally Posted by MattLA


I think killing the power completely on sundays except for military only should be done. No work, no electricity for 24 hours, would be a great reset for folks.


You can't be serious can you?? WOW

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Well I have no idea about the pellets but I can 100% build a small generator that produces energy from you burning the wood you have split and stacked. The current tech isnt great but you could run some lights and a fan. It uses a sensor to work along with some other circuitry.

More about getting more out of your tasks you already do.

Re: Green energy [Re: Sheepdog1] #7751623
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MattLA are you nuts? We haven't seen the sun for 4 days and it's 18 below right now. Might get a little cool without electric on sunday.

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Make one of those bicycle powered ones Matt, everyone burning wood would run us outta trees pretty quick.

Re: Green energy [Re: MattLA] #7751627
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Originally Posted by MattLA


I think killing the power completely on sundays except for military only should be done. No work, no electricity for 24 hours, would be a great reset for folks.


Why don't you jump in your RC truck and drive your coon arse up here and shut my power off on Sunday....
crazy


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Fracking for natural gas and oil.
Coal mining.
Commercial fishing.
Agricultural practices.

We have spent years perfecting these industries, the core industries that make our country’s economy thrive. We’ve made the combustion engine so efficient with little emissions. Farmers are putting plenty of food across our tables. Etc etc for the industries listed.

Let these industries thrive with less interference and we will remain warm and well fed, with plenty of job opportunity.

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Re: Green energy [Re: MattLA] #7751649
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Originally Posted by MattLA
Biomass = generating electricity through burning wood in your stove is what im talking about. The greatest thing about solar is it uses the sun which every other living thing uses to generate energy. It also allows for passive generation with almost zero input except for some niche cases.

I think killing the power completely on sundays except for military only should be done. No work, no electricity for 24 hours, would be a great reset for folks.


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Originally Posted by grumley701
Originally Posted by MattLA


I think killing the power completely on sundays except for military only should be done. No work, no electricity for 24 hours, would be a great reset for folks.


Why don't you jump in your RC truck and drive your coon arse up here and shut my power off on Sunday....
crazy

Hahahaha!


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