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Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761360
01/02/23 11:23 PM
01/02/23 11:23 PM
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I once shot at a groundhog with my .44 mag pistol with open sights. I didn't get it, but I definitely hit it. Blood and hair at the hit site. I measure it out at 105 yards. Got the bugger a week later with my rifle at 30 yards. When I shot at it with the pistol I hit it in the front leg. I showed it to my mom who said it was probably putting it's arms up to surrender when I shot.

Our local range has a 250, 300, and 400 yard gong. The 400 yard one is up a steep hill. It's amazing how many times people will say they hit the 400 gong. But in reality what they're hearing is the sound of the shot echoing back at them. I've sat there and watched bullet hitting the dirt all around it and them getting all excited because they "hit the gong".


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Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761381
01/02/23 11:53 PM
01/02/23 11:53 PM
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Got an idiot who is a friend of my neighbor. Claimed he had a one hole 1,000 yard rifle.

I don't get how any grown man can say stupid crap like that and expect anyone to respect him after saying it.

He's a grown man!!


How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761388
01/03/23 12:05 AM
01/03/23 12:05 AM
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North East Kansas
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North East Kansas
Yup, been there done that.

smile


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Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761393
01/03/23 12:08 AM
01/03/23 12:08 AM
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Had more than one old timer tell about how dad would give him 3 22 shorts and he better bring back meat for each bullet fired. Then talk about shooting rabbits on the run with a rifle. This was usually after I said I was rabbit hunting with a 12 gauge. I got two different old guys to go hunting with me but I think their eyes had got bad. Neither shot a single rabbit running. I only see a few of them before they run so used a shotgun. Was pretty common to jump a covey of quail too or see a squirrel Tarzaning though a tree too. I am not picky. Besides, you can make a pretty good stew putting in different animals. ( I did not know what gumbo was yet) Thats what I was making though. Had never heard of Roux. I just mixed flour and milk half and half, stirred it up good and then slowly poured it in to thicken things up a bit.


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Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761431
01/03/23 02:24 AM
01/03/23 02:24 AM
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Virginia
Hunted this farm with two buddies for squirrel. We was easin' through this narrow patch of woods, thick with big holly trees, Out of nowhere, here come a big passel of blackbirds fixin' to roost in the holly trees. We all held right still and let them settle in and once they did, we opened up on them. We blackened the forest floor with them that day. While we were runnin' down and finishin' off the blackbirds relieved of their ability to fly, why, we come across a freshly kilt squirrel. Musta been in one of them holly trees minding his own business when the onslaught begun.
I thought that I was gonna have to wup both of them fellers at the same time, them tryin' to claim the squirrel that I obviously seen the whole time and laid the bead on him and fired. I swear, some folks ain't willin' to listen to common sense...

Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761434
01/03/23 02:45 AM
01/03/23 02:45 AM
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I've noticed that, when shooting off the bench at 100 yards, when shooting just one shot, I can get one hole groups.
Group size grows exponentially the more shots I put in the target though.

Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: Wolfdog91] #7761441
01/03/23 04:53 AM
01/03/23 04:53 AM
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Originally Posted by Wolfdog91
Originally Posted by waggler
I had a guy at the shooting range once tell me that he shot an elk the season before at "587 yards". I said to him, "you must have the rifle zeroed at a few hundred yards, that bullets going to drop a few feet at that range". He replied; "Nope, zeroed at 200 yards, it's just a flat shooting rifle, I just held right at the top of his back".

Yea, right; I'm not a ballistics expert, but I know enough that he either got lucky and was holding waaay over it's back by accident, or he was lying.

Hmm.... Remember the caliber ? Could run it in my ballistic app real quick. Depending he actually may have not been exaggerating TOO much

No I don't remember the caliber, but I doubt it was anything out of the ordinary, as I recall the guy didn't seem to be a sophisticated shooter.

However, just for fun let's assume he was shooting a 30-378 Weatherby, 180 grain bullet at a MV of 3400fps, zeroed at 200 yards. What would the bullet drop be at 600 yards? Let me just take a wild uneducated guess and say 48 inches (or more).

Could you run the through your calculator? I really do wonder if I was way off in my judgement.


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Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: waggler] #7761442
01/03/23 05:08 AM
01/03/23 05:08 AM
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Amite county Mississippi
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Ok so it's not perfect,just my little $10 ballistic app on my phone but this should give you a rough idea. Just picked the data from the Weatherby brand bullets with that size bullet and a 100yd zero
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And my bad I put it at 650 instead of 600 straight


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Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761443
01/03/23 05:10 AM
01/03/23 05:10 AM
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Amite county Mississippi
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And this is the same deal but 600yd with a 200yd zero
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Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761513
01/03/23 08:12 AM
01/03/23 08:12 AM
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My first deer with a muzzle loader was 206 yards iron sights off handed. 8 point standing looking straight at me covered his head with the bead and center punched the throat patch with a 240 grain saboted 44 cal hollow point. NTR!
41 years ago!!!

Last edited by jbyrd63; 01/03/23 08:15 AM.
Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: bucksnbears] #7761514
01/03/23 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by bucksnbears

Put enuff lead in the air and you just get "lucky" sometimes.



What was that Teddy Roosevelt quote?

As long as there is lead in the air, there is hope in the heart!

Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761515
01/03/23 08:21 AM
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Plug a 6 mm Remington into that with a 100 grain partition bullet . 48 grains of 4831 . Zero at 200 but better at 250 . Guys I used to hunt with made that shot several times in Colorado years back . All of them carried 6 mm back then .

Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761521
01/03/23 08:29 AM
01/03/23 08:29 AM
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My wife got two last summer she chases them across the field
By the house with her Pontiac minivan with the pedal to the floor

Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: jbyrd63] #7761525
01/03/23 08:40 AM
01/03/23 08:40 AM
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Amite county Mississippi
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Amite county Mississippi
Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Plug a 6 mm Remington into that with a 100 grain partition bullet . 48 grains of 4831 . Zero at 200 but better at 250 . Guys I used to hunt with made that shot several times in Colorado years back . All of them carried 6 mm back then .

Need a general velocity as well


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Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: jbyrd63] #7761527
01/03/23 08:45 AM
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
My first deer with a muzzle loader was 206 yards iron sights off handed. 8 point standing looking straight at me covered his head with the bead and center punched the throat patch with a 240 grain saboted 44 cal hollow point. NTR!
41 years ago!!!


We would expect to hear nothing less from you jbird

Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761528
01/03/23 08:48 AM
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I once saw a young teen aged boy running across a harvested corn field shooting at a group of about 10 deer . At least one as a buck .The deer where about 500 yards from him as he shot 3 times using a 12 gauge smoothbore shotgun at them .It was not a rifled slug barrel and all it had for a sight was the bead on the front of the gun .Het said I would have shot that deer except for the fact that my eyes where watering because my binos hit me in the face as I was running and I could not see it very well. I was so impressed with his skill level that I was speechless !

Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: jbyrd63] #7761529
01/03/23 08:49 AM
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Amite county Mississippi
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Amite county Mississippi
Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Plug a 6 mm Remington into that with a 100 grain partition bullet . 48 grains of 4831 . Zero at 200 but better at 250 . Guys I used to hunt with made that shot several times in Colorado years back . All of them carried 6 mm back then .

Swagged it and put this in and the results
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Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761569
01/03/23 09:56 AM
01/03/23 09:56 AM
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Ontario, Canada
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I have "jokingly" told people that I could shoot the eyelashes off a groundhog at 200 yds... some people can't pick up on body language and tone LOL and have gone on to repeat the story.

That said, I have made some pretty unbelievable shots (that I freely admit were 99.9% luck)

1. Jackrabbit - full run, right to left at about 150 yds with a Ruger M77 MkII in .22-250 across a snowy, cut soybean field. Luckily there were several witnesses. I played it off like I do it all the time LOL
2. Hen bluebill - 60 yds with a Mossberg 935 - 31/2" #2 steel. After my friend missed at 20 yds in the decoys I casually mentioned "If I get this, you're fetching it" lifted my gun and dropped that duck like a stone. Turned to him and said "Fetch it up" absolute straight face, dead pan... he was in disbelief and actually wandered about halfway to the bird before he realized I had just got lucky with my shot.
3. Groundhog - 200 yds in a carrot field, offhand with the Ruger... right after my friend told me I couldn't make that shot.

Everything above aside, I have done a lot more missing than I have hitting over the years, my kids call me a "storm trooper... because you always miss, Dad!"
Aren't kids great?


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Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761580
01/03/23 10:16 AM
01/03/23 10:16 AM
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New York border
And then there is this......782 yards...... eek



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Re: Outlandish Accuracy Claims [Re: kbuck] #7761601
01/03/23 10:45 AM
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I've shot 60-70% on grouse. No, they weren't on the ground or on a limb.

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