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Re: "packing" at church
[Re: waggler]
#7766755
01/09/23 04:04 AM
01/09/23 04:04 AM
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Joined: Mar 2020
W NY
Turtledale
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W NY
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Never even thought about packing a gun in church. Don't care if people do, one way or the other. I don't and probably never will. I'm guessing most people that comment they do carry a gun 24/7 anyways and wouldn't matter if it was a church, yard sale or mother-in-law's 
NYSTA, NTA, FTA, life member Erie county trappers assn.,life member Catt.county trappers
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Re: "packing" at church
[Re: Turtledale]
#7766766
01/09/23 06:03 AM
01/09/23 06:03 AM
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Joined: May 2008
Mn
nightlife
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Mn
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Never even thought about packing a gun in church. Don't care if people do, one way or the other. I don't and probably never will. I'm guessing most people that comment they do carry a gun 24/7 anyways and wouldn't matter if it was a church, yard sale or mother-in-law's  Probably true but considering how many hateful people have shot up religious places of various denominations I consider it just prudent to do so, but like you said I carry every place I legally can, and church is no different, if my church was to ban carrying I would look for a different one
�Everything in excess! To enjoy the flavor of life, take big bites. Moderation is for monks.� ― Robert A. Heinlein
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Re: "packing" at church
[Re: waggler]
#7766794
01/09/23 07:03 AM
01/09/23 07:03 AM
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Mark June
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Mark June
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Sadly we live in times where discussions like this have to happen and serious decisions are asked of church leadership. I've served as an elder in the San Antonio area and I'm currently pastoring a church in Michigan and in both places security teams are in place. It's just the world we live in. I'm of the opinion that churches should have a security measure in place so that if and when a person who intends harm shows up.... people don't start throwing bullets around at each other in panic.
It's a real deal. I was preaching the morning that the phone rang at our EFCA church in La Vernia, Texas and the police told our elder to "lock in place, there's been a shooting in Sutherland Springs 5 miles down the road from y'all!" We ultimately evacuated the building asap upon state police orders 30 minutes later. Our congregation had family/kin killed that morning just down the road from us, so the horrors or this broken world can come calling and we as church leaders should IMO be proactive when it comes to church security.
I don't carry (although I have my permit to do so) but our church is well trained in all aspects of security. Sadly.
Blessings, Mark
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Re: "packing" at church
[Re: waggler]
#7766814
01/09/23 07:37 AM
01/09/23 07:37 AM
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J Staton
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J Staton
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I got to church with a bunch of democrats so we have no security plan and I'm not sure if anyone is secretly packing. We would be the perfect soft target for a shoot em' up.
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Re: "packing" at church
[Re: waggler]
#7766822
01/09/23 07:51 AM
01/09/23 07:51 AM
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J Staton
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J Staton
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What makes it even worse is now we look at a screen for the words to song. Now I ain't even got a hardbacked Baptist hymnal to chunk at a would be shooter.
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Re: "packing" at church
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#7766823
01/09/23 07:52 AM
01/09/23 07:52 AM
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Joined: Dec 2008
Eastern Shore of Maryland
HobbieTrapper
"Chippendale Trapper"
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"Chippendale Trapper"
Joined: Dec 2008
Eastern Shore of Maryland
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I got to church with a bunch of democrats so we have no security plan and I'm not sure if anyone is secretly packing. We would be the perfect soft target for a shoot em' up. How do you know they are democrats, are they smoking a little bit?
-Goofy
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Re: "packing" at church
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
#7766825
01/09/23 07:59 AM
01/09/23 07:59 AM
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J Staton
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J Staton
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I got to church with a bunch of democrats so we have no security plan and I'm not sure if anyone is secretly packing. We would be the perfect soft target for a shoot em' up. How do you know they are democrats, are they smoking a little bit? 
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Re: "packing" at church
[Re: waggler]
#7766874
01/09/23 09:55 AM
01/09/23 09:55 AM
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Joined: Dec 2006
williamsburg ks
danny clifton
"Grumpy Old Man"
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"Grumpy Old Man"
Joined: Dec 2006
williamsburg ks
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its a shame people need to carry. the crazies are sure enough out there though
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: "packing" at church
[Re: Calvin]
#7766884
01/09/23 10:06 AM
01/09/23 10:06 AM
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Joined: Jan 2007
MN
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MN
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My church has a security team. Some armed (current or retired police) and some aren't. We all have radio communication between us via earpieces. We also have an off duty police officer (in uniform) at the entrance. I am not the church going sort but anyplace that feels the need to have a "Security Team" along with "Radio Coms" sound like the place that I would certainly want to be armed at.
I have nothing clever to put here.
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