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Why Don’t Manufacturers Use Belisle-StyleSafeties? #7777409
01/20/23 01:45 PM
01/20/23 01:45 PM
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This is a question I’ve had for a while. It almost seems like in the trapping world, not much is safe from being copied when it comes to manufacturing. You all know what I mean. Someone will come up with a trap design, and next thing you know, someone else is making almost exactly the same trap.



Of all traps and equipment that have been copied, why is it that no one besides Belisle makes their bodygrips with dependable safety hooks? Those safety hooks make them the safest trap on the market. They don’t swing. I still treat them with the respect they deserve, but I appreciate not having to worry about accidents when I’m using belisles.


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Re: Why Don’t Manufacturers Use Belisle Safeties? [Re: Aix sponsa] #7777412
01/20/23 01:47 PM
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I would think cost. More expensive to produce that style for sure.

Re: Why Don’t Manufacturers Use Belisle Safeties? [Re: Aix sponsa] #7777413
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Probably cost an extra $.04 per trap.

Re: Why Don’t Manufacturers Use Belisle Safeties? [Re: Aix sponsa] #7777423
01/20/23 02:03 PM
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Yep, cost. Process to make them, more material etc. and who knows, possible patent infringement. I wish all manufacturers used them too and put them on 110's as well.


I wonder if tap dancers walk into a room, look at the floor, and think, I'd tap that. I wonder about things.....
Re: Why Don’t Manufacturers Use Belisle Safeties? [Re: Aix sponsa] #7777434
01/20/23 02:17 PM
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I would bet it's because they are belisles safeties


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Re: Why Don’t Manufacturers Use Belisle Safeties? [Re: Aix sponsa] #7777474
01/20/23 03:06 PM
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unless the Patent is re-newed it runs out after 21 years and this time has passed.
maybe the competition cant read French in what the Patent was taken out in.

by the way Donner , Canada does not use pennies any more so it's 5 cents

Re: Why Don’t Manufacturers Use Belisle Safeties? [Re: Aix sponsa] #7777479
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I've had them fail! They hurt!

Re: Why Don’t Manufacturers Use Belisle Safeties? [Re: Aix sponsa] #7777482
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If Belisle has a parts catalo order them and put them on?

Re: Why Don’t Manufacturers Use Belisle Safeties? [Re: Aix sponsa] #7777508
01/20/23 03:55 PM
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Do a search for Nessmunk's solution for safeties. Simple, cheap, no time to install, and works great

Re: Why Don’t Manufacturers Use Belisle Safeties? [Re: Rat_Pack] #7777511
01/20/23 03:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Rat_Pack
Do a search for Nessmunk's solution for safeties. Simple, cheap, no time to install, and works great

Yup, I learned it on Hal Sullivan’s site. Works well, but is a pain to do 6 dozen traps in one sitting! My fingers weren’t right for a week.


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Re: Why Don’t Manufacturers Use Belisle Safeties? [Re: Aix sponsa] #7777516
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You don't need heavy wire, light wire works fine

Re: Why Don’t Manufacturers Use Belisle Safeties? [Re: Aix sponsa] #7777543
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I like the solution Seldom Fales uses on his safeties with a piece of rubber tubing.


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Re: Why Don’t Manufacturers Use Belisle Safeties? [Re: Aix sponsa] #7777544
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I'll admit sometimes I like the loose safeties, you can compress the spring and let them swing over by themselves.

Re: Why Don’t Manufacturers Use Belisle Safeties? [Re: Aix sponsa] #7777564
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No more swinging...just as good


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Re: Why Don’t Manufacturers Use Belisle Safeties? [Re: Rat_Pack] #7777566
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Originally Posted by Rat_Pack
Do a search for Nessmunk's solution for safeties. Simple, cheap, no time to install, and works great


Your a good man...I don't care what they say about yah !

Just glad to help


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Re: Why Don’t Manufacturers Use Belisle Safeties? [Re: Aix sponsa] #7777574
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Originally Posted by Aix sponsa
This is a question I’ve had for a while. It almost seems like in the trapping world, not much is safe from being copied when it comes to manufacturing. You all know what I mean. Someone will come up with a trap design, and next thing you know, someone else is making almost exactly the same trap.



Of all traps and equipment that have been copied, why is it that no one besides Belisle makes their bodygrips with dependable safety hooks? Those safety hooks make them the safest trap on the market. They don’t swing. I still treat them with the respect they deserve, but I appreciate not having to worry about accidents when I’m using belisles.


Sauvageau does.Different design same result.

Last edited by Boco; 01/20/23 05:15 PM.

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Re: Why Don’t Manufacturers Use Belisle Safeties? [Re: k snow] #7777578
01/20/23 05:21 PM
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Originally Posted by k snow
I'll admit sometimes I like the loose safeties, you can compress the spring and let them swing over by themselves.

That is real handy when the trap is on one of your arms.


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Re: Why Don’t Manufacturers Use Belisle Safeties? [Re: Aix sponsa] #7777585
01/20/23 05:34 PM
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Nessmunk. What gauge wire is that ? Thanks

Re: Why Don’t Manufacturers Use Belisle Safeties? [Re: cotton] #7777586
01/20/23 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by cotton
I would bet it's because they are belisles safeties



I know, but let’s be honest....some companies aren’t exactly shy about using other companies’ designs. Some traps aren’t similar, they’re exactly the same

Re: Why Don’t Manufacturers Use Belisle Safeties? [Re: Aix sponsa] #7777589
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Originally Posted by Aix sponsa
Originally Posted by cotton
I would bet it's because they are belisles safeties



I know, but let’s be honest....some companies aren’t exactly shy about using other companies’ designs. Some traps aren’t similar, they’re exactly the same

That don't make it right.

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