Warrior, the 28 is a far better choice. I've had 3, an 1100 skeet and 2 Beretta OU. one was part of a 20/28 two barrel set. Shot a lot of grouse and pheasants over pointing dogs. The 28 punches way out of its class.

You can kill any game with a .410. That said I agree with Paul on his response to it being not logical for your purpose. The only reason i broke my daughters (when young) in with a .410 was not to scare them with gun kick. Some kids spook with the noise alone. Once they have enough butt they each got quickly graduated to a 20 gauge. Also, I super focused on shot placement and distance. Lila is my daughter in the pic. and had perfect placement inside of 15 yards. Still the pig turned on her when shot and approached her (slowly). She yelled dad, I told her to shoot again (I had my sights on the animal) and she yelled "like in the head?" to which I said yes. She shot it right behind the ear. I put shot placement so deep into her head that she did not know she was o.k. to shoot outside the lung/heart zone. lol

Moral of the story that pig was a dead pig after shot one but not dead on its side like mine with the same but longer shot with my 12 gauge. Advice get your self a larger gun and kick rear! Not judging just sharing experience.

Paul, maybe you just shoot well?

Good eats ADC!

Jayme, I do okay. No where near as well as I once did. Arthritis and eyesight has taken its toll. It's getting really tough to get around a hundred target Sporting course and my 8 1/2 pound target guns don't help. Getting old sucks.

Not sure about predators, but we have a guy come twice a year to hunt quail and that guy pulls doubles on every covey rise shooting a .410! And I’m not talking cripples either, dead birds easy enough for the cockers to find in a very short amount of time. Not sure of the make, but it’s a double barrel and it’s like his third arm, lol. Shoot enough of anything and you’ll become an expert with it.

Dad could do that, well not doubles, with that old model 37 410. The 410 can carry enough 9s or 8s to pattern well enough for quail. It just runs out of space for larger shot.

I know what you mean Paul. That boy is 17 now and routinely out shoots me. lol FWIW we like a .28 too. Here's the CZ Bobwhite in .28 and a little more current picture...

Yup, my boy out shoots me on a regular basis. He turned 38 Christmas day. I look at as a win win situation. He hunts, fishes, and traps. So I guess we did good with our kids.

Well everyone thanks for the input, honestly was just curious what could make it work, not if it was the best .

I agree with Paul also about the .410. For predator/coyote I would stick with the 12 gauge and 3 inch magnum shells.Or I'd try a cpl of the coyote specific loads they have out now days.And figure out which shell patterns the best for you before hand if possible.

There was a field and stream article where bill heavey went pheasant and they took some poor fella along that all he had to take was a .410 and then that fella put on a show all weekend as Bill missed alot of birds with his 12 gage to where the .410 started to seem like an unfair advantage. lol. it was a funny article. I just bought one in the last five years or so and I don't think I have ever shot one. My dad started me out on an old school double barrel side x side 20 gauge.

Shooting pheasants and quail from the ditch or over a pointing dog, doesn’t necessarily translate to a gun being “good enough” for shooting coyotes. I’ll catch some heat, but regardless of one’s quarry, the goal is a quick and efficient kill. I’m sorry but I’ll never buy into claims that payload and pattern don’t matter. That being said, I own 2 of them and are fun when the pigeons need thinning at our acreage or it’s time for rabbit pot pie.

Wolfdog, you can absolutely make it work, the naysayers just don't understand modern shotshell ballistics

Let's break it down

An easy load to load in the TPS 410 wad is the 383 stroker. 383 grains of shot = 0.875 oz

TSS #1 has effective penetration to kill a coyote at 100 yards. It is ballistically superior to #00 buckshot.

TSS #1 has 44 pellets per oz x 0.875 oz = 38 pellets

A 10ga 3-1/2" load of #00 Buckshot has 18 pellets

Another easy load in 410 is a 5/8oz load of tss

Even going to TSS #2 with this load you would have no problem killing coyotes and crazy ranges

TSS #2 has 54 pellets per oz x 0.625oz = 34 pellets

The only thing limiting the 410 with these large pellet sizes is the wad diameter. Even if you can't fit the full 383 grains I guarantee I can fit more pellets than the 10ga with #00 buck.

Enjoy doing things with your 410 that a 10 gauge can't wolfdog!

Yep we’re all dumb…. If ya wanna spend $5-$10 a shell for a $.02 coyote have at it.. If you’re gonna recite stats, do it evenly. Put your theory to test using the same payload in each gauge, not cherry picking situational variables. A 410 ten is not equal to a 28, 20, 16, 12, or 10 gauge all things equal, sorry to ruin your “facts”.

But for the price of hand full of boxes of that high end 410 ammo he could have bought a 12 or 20 that he can actually find ammo for about anywhere, have several loads to choose from and can afford to shoot. Heck rabbit lods I bought my wife's grand father for his 410 were over $15 a box when tha same load in 12 and 20 were 8$ a box. That was befor the prices went up and ammo became more limited.

Just like people that complain about the cost of beef or eggs etc

I can't feel bad for someone that complains about the cost when they can produce the product for much less on their own. Get a cheap reloader and you can load 410 rabbit loads for a few bucks a box

The above referenced tss 410 loads are not expensive to load due to the low payload and the current cheap prices of tss on the international market

The comparison was between a 410 with tss and a 10 gauge with lead shot. I thought that was stated clearly enough. No sense in loading a massive payload of tss in a 10 gauge, that is just wasting shot

And for reference, the 5/8oz load referenced in my original post will cost you less than $2 a piece to load

I load my 410 for predators the same way I load my 22LR for elk

Now you are missing the point. Now you need to spend more time more money and take up more space to make an inferior for the job ga do a job it was not ment for. Can you yes but for most people with a life/work time and space demands it make more since to buy a 300$ or less shot gun on a ga you you can walk in any store grab some ammo in a load from what you need to hunt and go hunt.

I can easily kill all the deer I want with a .22 lr dropping them on the spot but it's not the best tool for the job.