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Russias hypersonic missile #7792974 02/07/23 06:01 AM 02/07/23 06:01 AM
Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 11,884 Amite county Mississippi Wolfdog91 OP trapper
Wolfdog91 OP trapper Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 11,884 Amite county Mississippi	So..... Seen peoel freaking out about Russias new hypersonic missile..... apparently we don't have anything close enough to be able to take care of one ......well decided to do some looking and.... Which ok neat that sure is formidable.....but...y'all remember Operation Burnt Frost ? That satellite as going 7.3km per sec which converts to.... ......anddd we shot that thing down.....in 2008..... .....now of course this was planned pretty precisely with a lot of planning and all, and I'm no sure what's the cruising altitude of this thing ... I figure if it can go low enough it could definitely be more of a problem especially with the fact it can be steered .....but.... Again we shot down that Satellite....in 2008 am I the only one just sitting here thinking about the MASSIVE black budget the US spends on defense project and is just like.... "Mmmmkay" ? Like I'm 98% sure we have some stuff now that could knock that sucker out without too much trouble.... All the whole one of the multiple subs we have constantly tailing these ships will probably give them a nice little reminder about their presence .... Anyhow

Re: Russias hypersonic missile [Re: Wolfdog91] #7793012 02/07/23 07:34 AM 02/07/23 07:34 AM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,879 williamsburg ks D danny clifton "Grumpy Old Man"
danny clifton "Grumpy Old Man" D Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,879 williamsburg ks	During Reagans "star wars" days I was driving to Las Cruces N.M. one night. Over the Organ Mountain pass. Directly above White Sands Missile base and just south of Holloman A.F.B. I saw what looked like a column of blue light come up from the desert. Not a pin point like a pistol sight laser but a column. Yet the column was just that. The size was constant like a laser. There have been people working on missile defense for a LONG time. They been working on offense too. For a long time. Lets hope it never happens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Defense_Initiative Last edited by danny clifton; 02/07/23 07:36 AM. Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)

Re: Russias hypersonic missile [Re: danny clifton] #7793357 02/07/23 05:59 PM 02/07/23 05:59 PM
Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 11,884 Amite county Mississippi Wolfdog91 OP trapper
Wolfdog91 OP trapper Joined: Jul 2013 Posts: 11,884 Amite county Mississippi	Originally Posted by danny clifton During Reagans "star wars" days I was driving to Las Cruces N.M. one night. Over the Organ Mountain pass. Directly above White Sands Missile base and just south of Holloman A.F.B. I saw what looked like a column of blue light come up from the desert. Not a pin point like a pistol sight laser but a column. Yet the column was just that. The size was constant like a laser. There have been people working on missile defense for a LONG time. They been working on offense too. For a long time. Lets hope it never happens. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strategic_Defense_Initiative Was out in the field around and went to the white sands base a good little bit when we where at bliss and around the Donna Anna facility and, lotta , interesting looking buildings and folks there, they got some good stuff cooking no doubt

Re: Russias hypersonic missile [Re: Wolfdog91] #7793382 02/07/23 06:53 PM 02/07/23 06:53 PM
Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 35,175 McGrath, AK W white17 "General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington"
white17 "General (Mr.Sunshine) Washington" W Joined: Mar 2007 Posts: 35,175 McGrath, AK	I suspect that with technology involved n CB fire that it is possible to defend against something like a hypersonic missile. It would require one heck of an intelligence system to detect, analyze and feed data to fire control systems. The millimeter wave radar on the AH64 Longbow is probably the best we have....but it needs to be airborne to be effective. We know it's possible to shoot down cruise missiles from an aircraft but probably will work better to take an incoming head on rather than try to catch it from behind in the case of a HS missile. Pretty easy to take down a satellite where the trajectory is known. More difficult on a cruise type missile hidden the terrain clutter and changing course to avoid terrain. But what little I know about hypersonic missiles, I have the impression they have to leave the atmosphere and re-enter to achieve the maximum speed. IF that's the case, that would make them more vulnerable, especially in the boost phase Mean As Nails

Re: Russias hypersonic missile [Re: Wolfdog91] #7793394 02/07/23 07:19 PM 02/07/23 07:19 PM
Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,655 Central Texas C Chancey trapper
Chancey trapper C Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,655 Central Texas	Saw on Drudge Report today that we have a warship in the Black Sea. There used to be a thread several years ago about Russian submarines; Mr. Kelsey chimed in on it. I tried finding it but couldn't find it in the archives. Anyway, I wonder if we know where Russia's subs are and I also wonder if they know where our subs are? Military submarine stuff amazes me. Super sneaky! Resident Conspiracy Theorist Accused Moron, Nazi, Low IQ, and Putin Fan Boy

Re: Russias hypersonic missile [Re: Wolfdog91] #7793395 02/07/23 07:21 PM 02/07/23 07:21 PM
Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 2,792 Western Shore Delaware SJA trapper
SJA trapper Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 2,792 Western Shore Delaware	Everybody knows where everybody is at . . . no such thing as secret anymore. "Humans are the hardest people to get along with." Dr. Phillip Snow

Re: Russias hypersonic missile [Re: Wolfdog91] #7793400 02/07/23 07:24 PM 02/07/23 07:24 PM
Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,655 Central Texas C Chancey trapper
Chancey trapper C Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,655 Central Texas	Why is our govt, both D and R, h*ll bent of starting a war with Russia? Wouldn't surprise me at all to see fjb make a case for it tonight. Resident Conspiracy Theorist Accused Moron, Nazi, Low IQ, and Putin Fan Boy

Re: Russias hypersonic missile [Re: Wolfdog91] #7793408 02/07/23 07:27 PM 02/07/23 07:27 PM
Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 16,150 Tennessee Scuba1 "color blind Kraut"
Scuba1 "color blind Kraut" Joined: Jun 2007 Posts: 16,150 Tennessee	The zircon is not a ballistic missile. Thus you can not pre calculate its trajectory. It is steered till impact. It would be like trying to intercept an F18 with a piper cub being armed with a hammer. Let's go Brandon "Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."

Re: Russias hypersonic missile [Re: Wolfdog91] #7793410 02/07/23 07:29 PM 02/07/23 07:29 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,879 williamsburg ks D danny clifton "Grumpy Old Man"
danny clifton "Grumpy Old Man" D Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,879 williamsburg ks	How big is its payload? if it can be steered the control signal can be jammed Last edited by danny clifton; 02/07/23 07:30 PM. Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)

Re: Russias hypersonic missile [Re: Chancey] #7793412 02/07/23 07:32 PM 02/07/23 07:32 PM
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 45,502 james bay frontierOnt. B Boco trapper
Boco trapper B Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 45,502 james bay frontierOnt.	Originally Posted by Chancey Why is our govt, both D and R, h*ll bent of starting a war with Russia? Wouldn't surprise me at all to see fjb make a case for it tonight. If you are scared to fight you have already lost. A war or a bar fight-same thing. Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.

Re: Russias hypersonic missile [Re: Wolfdog91] #7793422 02/07/23 07:49 PM 02/07/23 07:49 PM
Joined: Dec 2014 Posts: 4,349 west virginia usa R randall brannon trapper
randall brannon trapper R Joined: Dec 2014 Posts: 4,349 west virginia usa	Originally Posted by Wolfdog91 So..... Seen peoel freaking out about Russias new hypersonic missile..... apparently we don't have anything close enough to be able to take care of one ......well decided to do some looking and.... Which ok neat that sure is formidable.....but...y'all remember Operation Burnt Frost ? That satellite as going 7.3km per sec which converts to.... ......anddd we shot that thing down.....in 2008..... .....now of course this was planned pretty precisely with a lot of planning and all, and I'm no sure what's the cruising altitude of this thing ... I figure if it can go low enough it could definitely be more of a problem especially with the fact it can be steered .....but.... Again we shot down that Satellite....in 2008 am I the only one just sitting here thinking about the MASSIVE black budget the US spends on defense project and is just like.... "Mmmmkay" ? Like I'm 98% sure we have some stuff now that could knock that sucker out without too much trouble.... All the whole one of the multiple subs we have constantly tailing these ships will probably give them a nice little reminder about their presence .... Anyhow You are absolutely right!! You really think we actually spend 20,000 dollars on a hammer???? Those Hammer funds are what came out with Stealths and other things we do not know about!!! God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.

Re: Russias hypersonic missile [Re: Boco] #7793428 02/07/23 07:58 PM 02/07/23 07:58 PM
Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,655 Central Texas C Chancey trapper
Chancey trapper C Joined: Mar 2014 Posts: 3,655 Central Texas	Originally Posted by Boco Originally Posted by Chancey Why is our govt, both D and R, h*ll bent of starting a war with Russia? Wouldn't surprise me at all to see fjb make a case for it tonight. If you are scared to fight you have already lost. A war or a bar fight-same thing. Not any Americans scared to fight Boco, rather just tired of fighting endless wars that we never win in order to keep people rich. We've been at war nearly my entire life. F Ukraine, if they want "their" so called country, then they can fight for it. We'd be better off fighting the cartels here. Resident Conspiracy Theorist Accused Moron, Nazi, Low IQ, and Putin Fan Boy

Re: Russias hypersonic missile [Re: Wolfdog91] #7793434 02/07/23 08:03 PM 02/07/23 08:03 PM
Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,879 williamsburg ks D danny clifton "Grumpy Old Man"
danny clifton "Grumpy Old Man" D Joined: Dec 2006 Posts: 29,879 williamsburg ks	Good post chancey Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)

Re: Russias hypersonic missile [Re: Wolfdog91] #7793436 02/07/23 08:04 PM 02/07/23 08:04 PM
Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 2,792 Western Shore Delaware SJA trapper
SJA trapper Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 2,792 Western Shore Delaware	Boco, your statement: "If you are scared to fight you have already lost. A war or a bar fight-same thing." appears to indicate, IMO, that you have not been in a bar fight, the military, or a war. Read Sun Tzu "The Art of War" sometime. "Humans are the hardest people to get along with." Dr. Phillip Snow

Re: Russias hypersonic missile [Re: Wolfdog91] #7793439 02/07/23 08:10 PM 02/07/23 08:10 PM
Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 1,717 Wisconsin Scott__aR trapper
Scott__aR trapper Joined: Dec 2020 Posts: 1,717 Wisconsin	Not to worried about how fast Russia's missiles fly; they can't out run the speed of light, yet. Lol Megapredator ... top of the food chain! Member of WTA Member of MTPCA Member of NTA

Re: Russias hypersonic missile [Re: SJA] #7793469 02/07/23 08:58 PM 02/07/23 08:58 PM
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 45,502 james bay frontierOnt. B Boco trapper
Boco trapper B Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 45,502 james bay frontierOnt.	Originally Posted by SJA Boco, your statement: "If you are scared to fight you have already lost. A war or a bar fight-same thing." appears to indicate, IMO, that you have not been in a bar fight, the military, or a war. Read Sun Tzu "The Art of War" sometime. Fighting is a lot like trapping,you wont learn much by reading about it,compared to doing it,lol. Last edited by Boco; 02/07/23 08:58 PM. Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.

Re: Russias hypersonic missile [Re: Boco] #7793477 02/07/23 09:09 PM 02/07/23 09:09 PM
Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 2,792 Western Shore Delaware SJA trapper
SJA trapper Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 2,792 Western Shore Delaware	Originally Posted by Boco Originally Posted by SJA Boco, your statement: "If you are scared to fight you have already lost. A war or a bar fight-same thing." appears to indicate, IMO, that you have not been in a bar fight, the military, or a war. Read Sun Tzu "The Art of War" sometime. Fighting is a lot like trapping,you wont learn much by reading about it,compared to doing it,lol. So tell me Boco, how much fighting in either scenario mentioned have you done versus reading about it? "Humans are the hardest people to get along with." Dr. Phillip Snow

Re: Russias hypersonic missile [Re: Wolfdog91] #7793482 02/07/23 09:17 PM 02/07/23 09:17 PM
Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 45,502 james bay frontierOnt. B Boco trapper
Boco trapper B Joined: Aug 2011 Posts: 45,502 james bay frontierOnt.	Enough to learn a few things is all I can say.Learned from a young age from family.Learned the mind quickness in theory and practice.Thats the most important part-Quickness in the mind.Makes for decisivness of action with no hesitation. You? Last edited by Boco; 02/07/23 09:22 PM. Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.

Re: Russias hypersonic missile [Re: Wolfdog91] #7793493 02/07/23 09:26 PM 02/07/23 09:26 PM
Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 2,792 Western Shore Delaware SJA trapper
SJA trapper Joined: Oct 2011 Posts: 2,792 Western Shore Delaware	Then you've told me nothing. Me? . . . been there, done that in all of them, and then more than I'd care to mention. . . . no further comment needed. "Humans are the hardest people to get along with." Dr. Phillip Snow

Re: Russias hypersonic missile [Re: Wolfdog91] #7793545 02/07/23 10:39 PM 02/07/23 10:39 PM
Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 318 MN Q Quartermastersir trapper
Quartermastersir trapper Q Joined: Apr 2010 Posts: 318 MN	what do they need a hypersonic missile for. Just send over a ballon......

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