Re: Tractor Tire Ballast?
[Re: Eagleye]
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02/07/23 08:37 AM
02/07/23 08:37 AM
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I have fluid in the rear tires. This works most of the time for me. However, when doing heavy loader work, weight on the 3-point is very important. I usually have on a box blade, mower, or tiller...depending on what I used last or might need to use next. My tractor weighs about 10,000 with loader. My prior tractor was smaller, likely similar to yours and I had to have weight on the 3-point for ballast for loader work, not only for stability, but to take weight off the front axle, and to add overall weight for traction. I prefer to have both the beet juice and counter weights. You may not want to add juice if the tractor will be used in yards as it would be more likely to leave ruts.
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Re: Tractor Tire Ballast?
[Re: Eagleye]
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02/07/23 08:50 AM
02/07/23 08:50 AM
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We still use calcium chloride. You must put tubes in your tires. We fill with 1/3 calcium chloride and 2/3 water
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Re: Tractor Tire Ballast?
[Re: Turtledale]
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02/07/23 08:57 AM
02/07/23 08:57 AM
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We still use calcium chloride. You must put tubes in your tires. We fill with 1/3 calcium chloride and 2/3 water I would think it would trash the rims without a tube - I assumed beet juice would require tubing also.
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Re: Tractor Tire Ballast?
[Re: Orlando]
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02/07/23 09:26 AM
02/07/23 09:26 AM
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A friend with a hobby tractor has a 3 point fork on the back. Has a wood crate (40x48 pallet with sides) filled with big field stones that he uses for ballast when doing loader work. I have fluid in the rear tires. This works most of the time for me. However, when doing heavy loader work, weight on the 3-point is very important. I usually have on a box blade, mower, or tiller...depending on what I used last or might need to use next. My tractor weighs about 10,000 with loader. My prior tractor was smaller, likely similar to yours and I had to have weight on the 3-point for ballast for loader work, not only for stability, but to take weight off the front axle, and to add overall weight for traction. I prefer to have both the beet juice and counter weights. You may not want to add juice if the tractor will be used in yards as it would be more likely to leave ruts.
Good thoughts - I see the tiller and/or brush hog weigh about 400lbs. Brush hog might be more cumbersome in tighter conditions, but tiller is a good weight option in addition to tire ballast until I contrive something else.
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Re: Tractor Tire Ballast?
[Re: arcticotter]
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02/07/23 09:28 AM
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Do you have on option for wheel weights? The type that bolt to the rim, I’ve got 3 sets on mine and it’s about right. I didn't see that as an option- I will definitely ask- can't imagine they wouldn't.
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Re: Tractor Tire Ballast?
[Re: Dana I]
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02/07/23 10:53 AM
02/07/23 10:53 AM
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One of the key benefits to having any kind of fluid in the tires over three point hitch ballast is that it gives you extra weight without putting weight on the tractor itself. Meaning the weight IN the tires is sitting directly on the ground and is therefore putting much less stress on the tractor. It's not wearing the joints on your 3 point arms or putting all that weight on top of axels to wear on them. X2 along with putting less stress on your hydraulic system while you're moving across the ground Russ
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Re: Tractor Tire Ballast?
[Re: Eagleye]
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02/07/23 11:02 AM
02/07/23 11:02 AM
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Have two tractors. One is 60's era utility that lost the rear rims (both of them) when it was allowed to sit with calcium in tires, and tire stems down. They leaked and rims rusted out. Had to be replaced. It also had pie shaped bolt on wheel weights. When the "vintage" experts see the tractor, they always comment on wheel weights. They considerable value to those guys. When rims were replaced, wheel weights is all it got. No heavy front or rear loads. It needs something. Hooked up a small 5 foot chisel plow to do the garden and she had power to spare, but wheels were spinning out.
Other tractor also had calcium in tires, also had tire stems and rims rusting out. Replaced with "methanol", which is what local farm tire shop uses now. Basically, windshield washer fluid. Water would work, but not if you live in a climate where it can freeze.
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Re: Tractor Tire Ballast?
[Re: HayDay]
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02/07/23 11:45 AM
02/07/23 11:45 AM
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We had a JD 301-A loader at work with calcium chloride in rear tires. Never had any problems.
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Re: Tractor Tire Ballast?
[Re: Half ton]
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02/07/23 12:50 PM
02/07/23 12:50 PM
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North Central Kansas
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3-Point ballast does add stress to the 3-point arms, hydraulics, and rear axle. However, it also acts as a lever which reduces stress and wear on the front axle components. The same amount of weight on 3-point as compared to fluid in tires will actually put more weight to the ground on the rear tires due to leverage.
Nature is reckless of the individual. Aldo Leupold.
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