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Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795498
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Lawd have mercy, someone agree with him, lol.

Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795499
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Originally Posted by Finster

Finally. Some info to discuss. Obviously, dignity and respect were observed. My question is should it have happened at all? People are expanding this far past the original question. I'm just wondering if people are ok with letting an industry that hates this country and hates the military film real places of honor to make a profit. That's been my only question.


Well, yes it does minorly offend me. Hollywood elitists that would never dream of joining the military, never wore a green suit presume to make war movies. Portraying people that they are not fit to lick their boots.

There are exceptions: Charlton Heston, Captian Kangaroo, Henry Fonda, (not Peter or Jane), Jimmy Stewart and many many others.
Tom Hanks? Pretty good actor but just another Hollywood sissy boy to me.

ACTOR. Fake people portraying real people.

Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Osagan] #7795501
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Originally Posted by Osagian
Originally Posted by Finster

Finally. Some info to discuss. Obviously, dignity and respect were observed. My question is should it have happened at all? People are expanding this far past the original question. I'm just wondering if people are ok with letting an industry that hates this country and hates the military film real places of honor to make a profit. That's been my only question.




It seems sort of "situational" to me. I understand where you're coming from and am inclined to agree ...but I know it is because I despise Spielberg. That's my bias. If John Wayne had made the same scenes with the cemetery would you feel the same ? I am pretty sure I would be ok with the Duke using a scene like that but not Spielberg


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Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795502
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Hmmm, I suggest everyone step back, breathe in and relax. FWIW, D-Day (Normandy) was an Allied effort that included British, Canadian, Free French, Polish, American soldiers and sailors (and likely others that don't come to mind right now). It's not worth this contentious debate or argument.

Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795506
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That movie was the most realistic depiction of WWII battle than any movie ever made. This has been confirmed many times over by many who were in that theatre at that time.
For me, I hope that they did film that in the actual cemetery. I did not even think of that aspect of the making of the movie when I watched it.
During that entire movie, I felt like I was there. It moved me greatly. I felt like I was at that cemetery. Now that it seems as though it was actually at that cemetery, I feel like I am there right now witnessing it. Greatly moved all over again.
Whoever made money on that movie does not concern me one bit. They did it right.
I doubt that we will ever see another movie come close to this one.
Finster, when the money grubbers of which you speak do make a movie which does not depict an honest portrayal of the truth in the battlefield, and show an actual cemetery, then you will have a right to crow, a duty in fact. I will be there with you.
I am not there on this movie.

Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: RustyShacklefrd] #7795511
02/10/23 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by RustyShacklefrd
Hey finster
We took a beach too buddy

Yup, but we ain't talk'in bout you.


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Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795524
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This question never would have crossed my mind. I've got too many other things to be outraged about, I guess!
So to answer your question, it doesn't bother me at all.

Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795526
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So, to sum it up. I don't think it's right. Hollywood, no matter what you think of it, the past decades, since the 60's or so (with some dispute) has been anti-American. They have only waved the flag when it could make them a buck. The fact that they would film real graves of American heroes to make a dollar is disgusting to me. I would hope to all of you. They make a dollar on the same graves they spit on. I don't know. I suppose I have a different standard, not saying it's necessarily better but for sure different. Sometimes I just shake my head. I guess I'll never get them modern psyche


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Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795537
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Then who EXACTLY are you talking about finster?

Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: RustyShacklefrd] #7795546
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Originally Posted by RustyShacklefrd
Then who EXACTLY are you talking about finster?

Just trying to have a discussion and/or debate. I figured it would be a good topic. Not every discussion has a 'WINNER" nor is it intended to. It's a way a gaining knowledge.

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Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795574
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Finster, I do honestly understand what you are saying and had you picked any other movie than this one, then yeah I would probably agree with you. I’m a vet and listened to many interviews and pod casts about this particular movie and it was one of the most actual descriptions of the war that it had men that had seen it reliving it again. As a vet I took it all wrong as you had issues with the movie or events itself…for that I do apologize sir.

Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795646
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I didnt see anyone disrespecting gravesites in the movie. Never even thought about hollywood profiting off that scene, but the whole movie- sure.

Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795661
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I have seen movies where prisoners get shot by a small unit. Its always the same. Portrayed as an atrocity. The public does not want to think about that stuff.


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Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795664
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My grandfather was there on Omaha Beach a few days after the landing. I don't find anything about the movie or the use of that cemetery offensive. Yes someone made money, but I can see the cemetery. I will probably never get to see that in person.


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Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: TraderVic] #7795758
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Originally Posted by TraderVic
The cemetery in the movie isn't Arlington National Cemetery, it would be, or meant to be the U.S. Armed Forces Cemetery at Normandy, France.
As a veteran, I'm not offended by it.

My Uncle is buried there in France. My Fathers buddy from Vietnam went there and took a picture of his Grave for the Family. It is in all of our scrap books.


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Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795760
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I disagree that all of Hollywood hates the military or America. For example, watch some of the war movies Clint Eastwood has directed. Letters from Iwo Jima, Flags of Our Fathers, Heartbreak Ridge and American Sniper. All four are based on real people and real events and are about as realistic as you can get. Saving Private Ryan is in the same vein.

Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: TraderVic] #7795836
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Originally Posted by TraderVic
The cemetery in the movie isn't Arlington National Cemetery, it would be, or meant to be the U.S. Armed Forces Cemetery at Normandy, France.
As a veteran, I'm not offended by it.

Nor am I! I beleve National Cemetary's are considered as National Monuments or parks, in the public trust.


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Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Finster] #7795931
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We should be more concerned about the way people fly our flag today. My blood boils every time I see a flag tore up flying on someone's vehicle, or tore up half stuck in a tree in the rain snow ripped up. Not sure what folks are thinking not displaying the flag with honor. Just suspecting they think it must be cool or special to see them hanging like that ripped and torn. I have come close several times of having a discussion with them but let it be.

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I see that a lot too, danvee. I think people put those flags up and then forget about them. Or think "I really need to take that down" but never do.

Re: Saving Private Ryan Debate question. [Re: Gary Benson] #7795984
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Originally Posted by Gary Benson
My personal belief is that Hollywood will desecrate anything to make a buck, especially the military. Platoon is a good example. There may be some reality but they won't hesitate to make military look badly.


And sadly Gary the new military can desecrate itself all on its own without any help..

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