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Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: randall brannon] #7822408
03/16/23 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by randall brannon
I have always hunted with my Browning Pump 10 Gauge and have killed every one between 10 and 65 yards, that gun shoots 5 shot and shoots it very tight. Now with 6 shot it does not do as well at longer range. It also does very well on Ducks and Geese. I also have a Mossburg 835 that does a great job at long distances. I have a Benelli that does good with 4 shot but sucks with 6 shot. Sometimes I think different guns shoot Different loads better than others.


If you don’t mind me asking, what kind of choke are you using in the 10? I have a BPS, but it doesn’t pattern 5 shot well past 35 yards for some reason.

Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: randall brannon] #7822415
03/16/23 11:37 PM
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Originally Posted by randall brannon
Originally Posted by Law Dog
Not a pattern I’d use if your off to the right a bit the hole in the pattern gets even bigger.

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Good Lord Law Dog!!! There would be no head left on that one. It probably would not even flop!!!


Thats the plan what is this flop you speak of? LOL


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Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7822423
03/16/23 11:49 PM
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Try 20 yards.

Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7822590
03/17/23 09:03 AM
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Guess I’m in the minority, I can’t believe how many guys don’t think you need to pattern a shotgun? Went pheasant hunting with a guy with a new never shot gun, he was missing everything, found out his pattern was shooting 5-6” to the left? Brand new guns don’t always shoot where you’re aiming them!


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Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: bass10] #7822595
03/17/23 09:09 AM
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Originally Posted by bass10
Guess I’m in the minority, I can’t believe how many guys don’t think you need to pattern a shotgun? Went pheasant hunting with a guy with a new never shot gun, he was missing everything, found out his pattern was shooting 5-6” to the left? Brand new guns don’t always shoot where you’re aiming them!



Scary the amount of bad advice here my guess it’s from people with little real experience with hunting them. First day and the 3rd week into the season are 2 way different birds to hunt, Public birds are even worse to even get a bead on them.

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Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: ] #7822618
03/17/23 09:35 AM
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Ave, I have shot 10 ga for yrs mine love heavy shot mag blend you might try it 60yds is a flop everytime. But yrs ago I put a scope on it as the pattern was to the right without scope and trying to guess where to hold a longer ranges just isnt good. farthest bird ever took was at 70yds in a wide open field he went down and I ran up quick stomped his head and was prepared to have to shoot him more if need be actually I expected to but got lucky. i use a sp10 most times.

Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: SwiftKIll] #7822669
03/17/23 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by SwiftKIll
If you need TSS to kill a Turkey you're not getting close enough. Not worth the expense and have fun finding #9 TSS in the meat. Let the flaming begin.

You don’t understand TSS and have never shot it have you, lol. TSS doesn’t get hung up in the meat. A properly patterned shotgun/choke/shell load hits where you aim…not all over the turkey. In the event you do get some stray shot it passes through. My son got excited on his Washington Merriam last year and shot a little early. Bird was dead right where hit shot it. When cleaning we found where some shot went through the left breast, through the center cartilage, and out the right breast. The only way we knew it went all the way through was they fact it drug a feather completely through with it…the feather was poking out of the right side breast. And for the record out of 5-6 turkeys last year, my farthest shot was 23yds. TSS is for those open prairie areas where I think it’s 30yds in the excitement and realize it was a little farther when going to pick up my bird. I’ve never seen a wounded turkey from TSS, but have shot birds with plenty of old lead shot in them.

Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: SwiftKIll] #7822674
03/17/23 10:55 AM
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Originally Posted by SwiftKIll
If you need TSS to kill a Turkey you're not getting close enough. Not worth the expense and have fun finding #9 TSS in the meat. Let the flaming begin.

I agree that's why I always use a Duke number one coil spring for coyotes cause if you can't get them to step dead center on that little pan your doing it wrong!



Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: 70sdiver] #7822677
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Originally Posted by 70sdiver
Originally Posted by SwiftKIll
If you need TSS to kill a Turkey you're not getting close enough. Not worth the expense and have fun finding #9 TSS in the meat. Let the flaming begin.

I agree that's why I always use a Duke number one coil spring for coyotes cause if you can't get them to step dead center on that little pan your doing it wrong!

Lol!!!!

Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7822683
03/17/23 11:03 AM
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Wanna Be, it is a wasted effort to explain

Lots of talk that have no experience with TSS. Shoot it and then come back to me and we will talk

Many guys on here have only ever killed a handful of turkeys, and those turkeys were years ago in the "good ole days"

Now every tom, dick, and harry turkey hunt

I never said it can't be done with other methods, just that my method is more effective and efficient, and I load it for about the same price as Longbeard XR lead shot


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Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7822697
03/17/23 11:18 AM
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Regardless of the shells using lead, tss you need a good pattern is what the original poster asked. Just don't want another TSS debate but maybe proper pattern debate?


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Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: bass10] #7822699
03/17/23 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by bass10
Regardless of the shells using lead, tss you need a good pattern is what the original poster asked. Just don't want another TSS debate but maybe proper pattern debate?


Good luck. Apparently only TSS has a proper pattern these days.

Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7822727
03/17/23 12:05 PM
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I knew someone would bite. Coondagger2, Wanna Be I kill my Turkey every year with one shot without TSS. If you can't handle that I don't use TSS that's your issue. Coondagger2 as usual someone making a comment on one's experience without any knowledge of them. Use your TSS if you wish and good luck. Over it!

Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: k snow] #7822740
03/17/23 12:22 PM
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Originally Posted by k snow
Originally Posted by bass10
Regardless of the shells using lead, tss you need a good pattern is what the original poster asked. Just don't want another TSS debate but maybe proper pattern debate?


Good luck. Apparently only TSS has a proper pattern these days.

Plenty of proper patterns can be had with lead

But when you tell someone their pattern isn't good enough here comes the TSS hate train


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Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: SwiftKIll] #7822741
03/17/23 12:23 PM
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Originally Posted by SwiftKIll
I knew someone would bite. Coondagger2, Wanna Be I kill my Turkey every year with one shot without TSS. If you can't handle that I don't use TSS that's your issue. Coondagger2 as usual someone making a comment on one's experience without any knowledge of them. Use your TSS if you wish and good luck. Over it!

Swift, please tell me how many turkeys/animals you have killed with TSS. I think you will find my statement to be true


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Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: coondagger2] #7822743
03/17/23 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by coondagger2
Originally Posted by SwiftKIll
I knew someone would bite. Coondagger2, Wanna Be I kill my Turkey every year with one shot without TSS. If you can't handle that I don't use TSS that's your issue. Coondagger2 as usual someone making a comment on one's experience without any knowledge of them. Use your TSS if you wish and good luck. Over it!

Swift, please tell me how many turkeys/animals you have killed with TSS. I think you will find my statement to be true


Body count doesn't mean you are a better hunter, it means you are a better killer. Extending your range allows you to kill more. Getting more birds in closer means you are a better hunter. It boils down to what you are after out of your hunt.

Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7822747
03/17/23 12:30 PM
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LOL The crying over TSS is hilarious.

TSS is King.

I've shot everything over the years. Never thought it would get better than HEVI-SHOT. TSS is absolutely devastating.



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Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7822750
03/17/23 12:32 PM
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No one is crying over TSS. We are simply stating you don't NEED it to kill turkeys. Lead works fine.

Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: k snow] #7822760
03/17/23 12:55 PM
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Originally Posted by k snow
Originally Posted by bass10
Regardless of the shells using lead, tss you need a good pattern is what the original poster asked. Just don't want another TSS debate but maybe proper pattern debate?


Good luck. Apparently only TSS has a proper pattern these days.

Good grief, who said that? Going to talk to my 7 month old grandson, he understands what’s being said better than a lot of grown men

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Re: Will this pattern kill? [Re: rattrapper1234] #7822763
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Because every thread for the last few years on here about pattern density can be summed up as "TSS, or you're not a turkey hunter"

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