Sometimes the things I read on hear make my brain hurt. The 19th Amendment was ratified in 1920 (12 years prior to FDR):
https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/People/Women/Nineteenth_Amendment_Vertical_Timeline.htm#:~:text=Approved%20by%20the%20Senate%20on,long%20fight%20for%20political%20equality


Suggesting that we disenfranchise half of the American population is a slap in the face to all women. I can't even begin to fathom how our female members are feeling right now. Please know that all members on here do not share this viewpoint.

Folks sure are sensitive. Women don't need to vote for they wield a much greater power for molding a nation...motherhood.

Mine too.

I don't like the term "toxic masculinity" either. So if some female members don't like what I write I guess they can PM me with a tongue lashing or tell me face to face at a get together, or make a public post.

BTW my wife agrees with me on women voting. It's not going to change but not putting Carrie Nation in jail gave us the 18th amendment. It was not men claiming that the government had an obligation to protect people from themselves. It WAS men that finally repealed it after organized criminal enterprises were formed to supply ethanol. Enterprises that have gotten enormously profitable with other drugs still being illegal under prohibition laws.

It was not a preponderance of men that supported any gun control or animal rights laws either.

Men who own property have skin in the game. We should go back to that group being who votes. Its not going to happen but we would certainly benefit from it.

Danny, I remember as a kid that in my township elections for local tax issues only property owners were allowed to vote on those referendums. That was back in the late 50s or early 60s in Michigan.

This

If you want to solve a lot of problems.
1--- one term for Senators,and one term for congressmen. period.
2---- every single body pays federal income tax, everybody then has skin in the game.
And yet,I bet the big powers that be will still control, but it might be a little tougher .

I can see the point of if you don't pay taxes you don't vote but that's only to a point. How many taxes do people on social security pay? You do know a lot of them have paid in over the years and don't now right? A lot of them are also conservative.

The whole owning land thing is an idiotic stance. We own a house does that count? Here's the other thing on that and it's hard for some here to wrap their head around. Some people don't own a home and never will. Does that mean they're liberal or progressive and will vote Democrat? No it doesn't. Also some people when they get older and retire sell their home and spend part of the year traveling to other areas for example the term snowbirds. They may do long term rentals a couple places or more a year so you're going to say they can't vote?

I agree with Green Bay. Reading some of the comments on here does make my head hurt

Badger23 that was how it was for a long while. The last state to abolish property qualification was North Carolina in 1856

I am aware my opinion is in the minority. Won't happen.

Why would someone rent rather than own except the very young just starting out? Even making payments is no more expensive than rent. With the added benefit that you keep some of the money your making payments with in the form of equity.

People who never buy a home are not responsible with their own money. How can they be trusted to vote responsibly?

Surefire recipe for staffer control of the swamp. We already have the big issue of the bureaucratic state. Lifetime federal employees doing as they please without penalty. Rotating congress out every six years does nothing to allow power groups within the congress to move against the bureaucracy.

We need to return to the spoils system that we used to have. Where the incoming president can fire or hire at will in the executive.

Return to state legislature appointment of senators.

The income tax should be abolished

Danny, home ownership isn't always the better option. A renter does not have to pay property taxes, repair cost and interest on a home loan.

I pay around $3200 in property taxes on my home which figures out to about $250 a month. Interest rates are high right now for home buyers. Mine is under 3% due to excellent credit. Add in the cost of maintaining a home and it can run into a lot of money real fast.

I've got a friend who's going to be 60 this year (retired navy 22 years and retired from where we both worked in June 2022). He's rented since I've known him about 12 years or so. He's got a great deal at $400 a month for a small 3 bedroom 1 bath house with a single garage. He used to talk about buying and I'd shake my head and tell him you can't buy for what you're paying right now after you figure in proprerty taxes, interest, and maint. cost. He doesn't even mention it anymore and he knows it wouldn't make sense at his age. He also would be tied down if he did want to move.

Alot of times if people hold their money together when they sell a home after they figure in all the costs they're doing good. There are exceptions both ways.

Being SS and your retirement investments all get taxed how does anyone not pay taxes when retired?

Rather than attacking all women, attack the ones who deserve it.

A few examples:





Total morons--just different parties.