Re: "Gunwoman"?????
[Re: Moosetrot]
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When those the political left indoctrinate and support commit the crime they must change the narrative. They left pushes gender confusion so when the she who identifies as a him and commits murder then the him becomes female again. The political right should demand they identify she as a he,but the left is glad they aren't.
James 1: 19-20
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Re: "Gunwoman"?????
[Re: Moosetrot]
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the shooter that shot up YouTube offices in Cali 4/3/2018 was also a woman
when you study it for very long the only truth you come to is no list predicts the next act , not reliably you would have a thousand false positives for every event.
Active shooters have been- - as young as 11 - as old as 66 - Male - Female - US born - Foreign born - of every ethnic group - veterans - police - politician - school board member - Vegan - of different social classes
Most share 2 things in common. A)they are carrying 4-6 stressors , unhealthy behaviors or life issues.
B) They all seem to share an Entitlement that the World / someone / some group owes them something. Revenge , recognition , acceptance, justice , payback , respect. But an overwhelming belief that they have been wronged and hurting others will set it straight.
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: "Gunwoman"?????
[Re: Moosetrot]
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03/28/23 09:24 AM
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solutions will be found in
Immediate response - seconds are ideal , this means the good people carrying. this was a 14 minute response 911 call to shooter neutralized further analysis will tell us if 7 minutes would have cut the deaths in half or not.
Barriers to access - in this case the assailant shot the glass door to gain access to the building , the good part is that let people know the attacker was coming. would it have been better if it had security mesh in the pains of glass? probably would have slowed them down some more.
as sad as it is this might go in a good learning experience file , 3 youth 3 adults , we don't count shooters. what kept the numbers low , I get it was awful and tragic , back up from the emotion for a few minutes analyze the data.
the shooter had some level of access inside the building for 14-15minutes even with a single shot shotgun shooting 6 times in 15 minutes is really slow. did they shoot more and miss ? did they just not have the people available to shoot? if that was the case and lock down drills and barriers to access helped.
some where in there is the component of recognizing the sound of gun fire.
improvised weapons exist even in Japan the most locked down of locked down counties , a guy shot the former prime minister surrounded by security with such an improvised weapon. you will never prevent injuring or killing one person. but you may be able to keep it to 1 and when the people who feel they are wronged and hurting people will make it better. perceive it to be a more of a chance they just are stopped or die before they reach any sort of goal they had set for themselves we see these events slows way down.
when they are encouraged by the results of others and media attention , we see more events.
what lessons can be learned in what went right , while everyone in the media is focused on the wrong.
how do you make the risk to them greater than the reward?
Last edited by GREENCOUNTYPETE; 03/28/23 09:26 AM.
America only has one issue, we have a Responsibility crisis and everything else stems from it.
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Re: "Gunwoman"?????
[Re: Moosetrot]
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03/28/23 09:38 AM
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Just the MSM being woke afraid of being canceled walking the thin line between reality and wokeness. I still remember the MSM calling Zimmerman a White/Hispanic to fit their narrative but would not think of saying the same about Obummer.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: "Gunwoman"?????
[Re: Moosetrot]
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Shouldn't that be "Gun Person"?
Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon.
Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.
Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
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Re: "Gunwoman"?????
[Re: Moosetrot]
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Was it BORN a MAN?? If so it is a MAN!!! Was it BORN a WOMAN??? If so she is a WOMAN!!! No matter what the leftist Demonrats try to LIE ABOUT!!!
God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
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Re: "Gunwoman"?????
[Re: Moosetrot]
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could just call them a Perpetrator or PERP for short
anything to remove the fame or notoriety from the person and event
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Re: "Gunwoman"?????
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03/28/23 10:17 AM
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the shooter that shot up YouTube offices in Cali 4/3/2018 was also a woman
when you study it for very long the only truth you come to is no list predicts the next act , not reliably you would have a thousand false positives for every event.
Active shooters have been- - as young as 11 - as old as 66 - Male - Female - US born - Foreign born - of every ethnic group - veterans - police - politician - school board member - Vegan - of different social classes
Most share 2 things in common. A)they are carrying 4-6 stressors , unhealthy behaviors or life issues.
B) They all seem to share an Entitlement that the World / someone / some group owes them something. Revenge , recognition , acceptance, justice , payback , respect. But an overwhelming belief that they have been wronged and hurting others will set it straight.
So what you are saying is that the majority of them are democrats ?? Sounds about right
Let's go Brandon
"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
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Re: "Gunwoman"?????
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If we ignore leftist gender/mental illness indoctrination on this one, we are placing the emphasis on firearms and that's exactly what the leftist want.
James 1: 19-20
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Re: "Gunwoman"?????
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could just call them a Perpetrator or PERP for short
anything to remove the fame or notoriety from the person and event That would be best imo. Unfortunately the left likes plastering the news with these peoples names, almost hero like. Why? To motivate other whack jobs to do the same?? Thats my guess anyway.
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Re: "Gunwoman"?????
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This all started years ago with the McDonalds shooting as well as a few disgruntled Post Office workers. if we are going to trace the origins for mass murder events in the USA we need to back up to 1927 the Bath School Massecure. the 55 year old Bath township unified school district school board treasurer , planted 2 explosive charges under the school 1 went off killing 38 and wounding 56 others , the second device didn't go off a 3rd device planted in his own house killed hiw wife he then assembled the school board in response and shot the case of TNT in his passenger foot well area of his truck killing most of the remaining school board members and him self when you start studying actual mass killing/mass shooter events you start to see they hold fairly steady with the population actual events however are clouded in recent years by how the media classifies them and not the real definition , or the new 2013 definition even by the 2013 definition reducing the number to 3 victims in a event not tied to other crime like drug or gang activity. the media may have reported >300 mass shootings but the FBI only has 61 active shooter events for 2021 only 6 made mass https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/active-shooter-incidents-in-the-us-2021-052422.pdf/viewso yes you are being mislead by the media there have been 4 including this one in 2023 2023 is a record breaking year the oldest mass shooter jumped twice this year 67 and 72 it had previously been 66 if you didn't hear about those they didn't fit the narrative the media is going for in 2018 , 27 active shooter events , 10 of 27 appear to be mass death events 3 or more https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/active-shooter-incidents-in-the-us-2018-041019.pdf/view2019 it was 28 events 12 made mass killing status https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/active-shooter-incidents-in-the-us-2019-042820.pdf/viewin 2020 it was 40 events 5 make mass shooting although the FBI reports contradict them selves the 2019 report stated 28 but the 2020 report states 2019 as having 30 not a huge gap but they don't publish these till well after the year is complete so it seems an odd discrepancy. https://www.fbi.gov/file-repository/active-shooter-incidents-in-the-us-2020-070121.pdf/view
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Re: "Gunwoman"?????
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She was under mental care..parents knew she shouldn't have guns and thought she didn't after she sold one. Time people wanting o outlaw guns realize these people are nuts and not only treat them as such, but stop encouraging it like you see being done everyday. They're even taking these nuts into grade schools putting on drag shows. 
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