Re: Why the friction?
[Re: gcs]
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04/01/23 01:58 PM
04/01/23 01:58 PM
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Yes sir
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You don't have to be a christian, whatever that means to the individual, to be a good and moral person. If you follow the Golden rule your covered as far as I'm concerned.
I've read right here that Non Christians or followers of other ancient religions couldn't possibly get into "heaven" because they don't accept Jesus as their savior....It's statements like that that sound condenscending and righteous, and it grates....
Especially seeing how the bible has been changed over the centuries by those seeking power and obedience. I care not a lick, or even need to know, what religion you are, doesn't make you a good person....Like always...YMMV Trouble here is no one good enough or moral enough to be covered unless one is without one sin. And since God is a just God (his perfection demands that he too must be a just God) he provides us with a way to salvation. I say this out of love for my brother with no intention to offend. If you chose to believe otherwise that's your choice and I know this probably wouldn't change your mind so I post this for others out there. As a Christian I believe this with a whole heart and feel by not sharing this truth I am letting others down. Again zero intent to offend anyone.
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Re: Why the friction?
[Re: warrior]
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04/01/23 02:02 PM
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james bay frontierOnt.
Boco
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I always follow the golden rule-Do unto others before they have a chance to do it to you.
Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Why the friction?
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04/01/23 02:06 PM
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Scuba1
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I always thought it was because the "Word of God was sharper than any two edged sword." For the life of me I don't understand how someone would get mad at the words of a book they don't believe in. Maybe it's not the Christian judging but the non believer judging themselves and don't like what they see when comparing themselves to that book they don't believe in. Does the non believer experience conviction but just don't act on it? And maybe that post was one of the dumbest things that I have read on here so far.
Let's go Brandon
"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
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Re: Why the friction?
[Re: Scuba1]
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04/01/23 02:07 PM
04/01/23 02:07 PM
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J Staton
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J Staton
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I always thought it was because the "Word of God was sharper than any two edged sword." For the life of me I don't understand how someone would get mad at the words of a book they don't believe in. Maybe it's not the Christian judging but the non believer judging themselves and don't like what they see when comparing themselves to that book they don't believe in. Does the non believer experience conviction but just don't act on it? And maybe that post was one of the dumbest things that I have read on here so far. Thank you. Happy Easter!
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Re: Why the friction?
[Re: Boco]
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04/01/23 02:10 PM
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Macthediver
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I always follow the golden rule-Do unto others before they have a chance to do it to you. Boco Boco..easy lmao I think We are almost at the point in this thread where the name calling going start. To late for logic.. Mac
"Never Forget Which Way Is Up"
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Re: Why the friction?
[Re: gcs]
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04/01/23 02:15 PM
04/01/23 02:15 PM
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Posco
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Especially seeing how the bible has been changed over the centuries by those seeking power and obedience. I care not a lick, or even need to know, what religion you are, doesn't make you a good person....Like always...YMMV Common misconception. Don't confuse Bible versions with manuscript evidence. Two entirely different animals.
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Re: Why the friction?
[Re: warrior]
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04/01/23 02:19 PM
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williamsburg ks
danny clifton
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J Staton, I don't get it. You ask why someone does not believe. They tell you. But for some reason I can not fathom you refuse to believe them.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Why the friction?
[Re: warrior]
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04/01/23 02:26 PM
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J Staton
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I don't refuse to believe you, because I was an unbeliever as you were. I've walked in your shoes. I just don't understand why a devout unbeliever would be upset by a bible they believe is a fairy tale.
Last edited by J Staton; 04/01/23 02:28 PM.
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Re: Why the friction?
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04/01/23 02:36 PM
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Macthediver
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I don't refuse to believe you, because I was an unbeliever as you were. I've walked in your shoes. I just don't understand why a devout unbeliever would be upset by a bible they believe is a fairy tale. I don't know the bible to ADD to sit read it without meds. Which I don't take. You can pigeon hole all none believers anymore that one can pigeon hole all christians. Im not up set by the bible don't hate religion. But I don't like being preached at or looked down on by people who are religious. That for me is any religion. Mac
"Never Forget Which Way Is Up"
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Re: Why the friction?
[Re: warrior]
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04/01/23 02:38 PM
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Georgia
warrior
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Do you go to mass? Do you carry a Bible if and when you do?
Boco is a joe biden style catholic.  Boco and I may disagree on alot of things but I don't think he's a pedo. But his priest might be.
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Re: Why the friction?
[Re: warrior]
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04/01/23 02:38 PM
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danny clifton
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What upsets me, what started this, was being made sport of by that video warrior posted. Then asking for a rebuttal. Now you want to pretend you don't know why people are posting a rebuttal. I realize you feel your a bit better than anyone not part of your belief system and that irritates me also.
Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
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Re: Why the friction?
[Re: warrior]
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04/01/23 02:43 PM
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Law Dog
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Why the friction that’s simple to answer, talking about religion!
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Why the friction?
[Re: warrior]
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04/01/23 03:36 PM
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Wild_WI
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These comments only in reverse are why I am a non believer, judge yourself and yours before you judge me and mine
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Re: Why the friction?
[Re: warrior]
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04/01/23 03:55 PM
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Tim64
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Do you honestly believe anyone or organization has the corner on the truth? It is difficult to determine the exact number of religions in the world, as different sources provide different estimates due to various factors such as the definition of religion and the way it is practiced. However, it is generally accepted that there are thousands of religions in the world, with some sources estimating around 4,200 religions or more. These religions vary widely in their beliefs, practices, and number of followers. Some of the largest and most well-known religions include Christianity, Islam, Hinduism, Buddhism, and Judaism, but there are also many smaller or lesser-known religions that are practiced by various communities around the world. There are only two possibilities, one of these religions are right or they are all wrong. Too much to ask for a conclusion.
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Re: Why the friction?
[Re: Tim64]
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04/01/23 04:02 PM
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Posco
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There are only two possibilities, one of these religions are right or they are all wrong. Too much to ask for a conclusion. Hitchens claimed three options. All were wrong, all were right or only one of them were right.
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Re: Why the friction?
[Re: Macthediver]
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04/01/23 04:45 PM
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J Staton
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I don't refuse to believe you, because I was an unbeliever as you were. I've walked in your shoes. I just don't understand why a devout unbeliever would be upset by a bible they believe is a fairy tale. I don't know the bible to ADD to sit read it without meds. Which I don't take. You can pigeon hole all none believers anymore that one can pigeon hole all christians. Im not up set by the bible don't hate religion. But I don't like being preached at or looked down on by people who are religious. That for me is any religion. Mac Have you ever considered that someone who shares the Gospel with you is not looking down on you but instead is trying to help you? As for people, I've been accused of being selfish, looked upon with disdain, and even been accused of listening to a spirit of the devil. All by members of the church I attend. Lol.
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