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New Trap- HMR #5 Bridger, Pa. Legal #7839763
04/06/23 01:34 PM
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A trap is born.

This is a Todd Strohecker (CoonDuke) designed trap. Made by Gary Haupt (hammer).
Dubbed 'The Pennsylvania Trap'.

Gary uses a #5 Bridger with an 8 1/2" jaw spread. He removes jaws, cuts down jaws for 6 1/2" to achieve legal jaw spread in Pennsylvania. Doing this, keeping the extra width, lever to lever plus and keeping the huge pan.
Todd's design & Gary's reshaping makes this an excellent Beaver trap with added jaw spread & large pan.

Left--- original #5 Bridger
Right- HMR Bridger #5 aka The Pennsylvania Trap
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Gary & County Cletus tested this trap the past season with good results.
They will be available at PTA Rendezvous in June at Gary's booth.
Thanks to Todd & Gary for giving Pa. folks another trap size option.

Re: New Trap- HMR #5 Bridger, Pa. Legal [Re: Hern] #7839768
04/06/23 01:38 PM
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Here's a video Todd sent me-


Re: New Trap- HMR #5 Bridger, Pa. Legal [Re: Hern] #7839780
04/06/23 01:53 PM
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So both dog on and dogless ?

Re: New Trap- HMR #5 Bridger, Pa. Legal [Re: Hern] #7839804
04/06/23 02:16 PM
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Great traps. too bad I don't have the opportunity to do a test.

Re: New Trap- HMR #5 Bridger, Pa. Legal [Re: eedup] #7839811
04/06/23 02:28 PM
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Originally Posted by eedup
So both dog on and dogless ?

Yes
Standard jaws or offset jaws

Re: New Trap- HMR #5 Bridger, Pa. Legal [Re: Hern] #7839812
04/06/23 02:30 PM
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Our warden would measure it axel to axel and it would be too wide. My opinion is not legal for Pa. I’d have to get it approved in Harrisburg first

Re: New Trap- HMR #5 Bridger, Pa. Legal [Re: Hern] #7839814
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Show side to side measurement please

Re: New Trap- HMR #5 Bridger, Pa. Legal [Re: Hern] #7839818
04/06/23 02:34 PM
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I’ve seen where jaw spread was left to the wardens discretion. I’d have to hear from to top before I’d use them

Re: New Trap- HMR #5 Bridger, Pa. Legal [Re: Hern] #7839852
04/06/23 03:23 PM
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I always wondered why someone didn't make a trap similar to a #4 Blake and Lamb dbl under spring that's has similar dimensions.

Hope they do well with it!

Re: New Trap- HMR #5 Bridger, Pa. Legal [Re: Hern] #7839870
04/06/23 03:45 PM
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Had a argument with the wardens in the Pa game commission camper at the Clearfield rosy a few years ago. I presented a off set duke #4 with the pressed offset. Both measured and both had a different opinion. One measured inside jaw to jaw. The other measured outside jaw to jaw. With the outside pressed offset it was not legal. Tip to tip or across the pan, outside measurement cannot exceed 6.5 inches. They agreed finally after a call to Harrisburg. I’m Leary of your new design.

Re: New Trap- HMR #5 Bridger, Pa. Legal [Re: Hern] #7839874
04/06/23 03:54 PM
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No dis to Wardens but if I was asking approval,
I'd ask the Magistrate or Judge, or Lawyer.
Someone will be along with the written law.

Way to go guys, good luck.





Re: New Trap- HMR #5 Bridger, Pa. Legal [Re: Hern] #7839875
04/06/23 03:55 PM
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: cool

Re: New Trap- HMR #5 Bridger, Pa. Legal [Re: Hern] #7839879
04/06/23 03:59 PM
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Kev you spelled excel wrong grin

Been busted by GP so many times I just had to lol.





Re: New Trap- HMR #5 Bridger, Pa. Legal [Re: Hern] #7839887
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Exceed. I got it right. Or is it wright? Lmao

Re: New Trap- HMR #5 Bridger, Pa. Legal [Re: Hern] #7839893
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Why can’t you guys use beaver traps up there? Is it that the law has never been upgraded to reflect the newer beaver traps that are not named #4? I’m assuming that since your jaw spread limit aligns with that.

Re: New Trap- HMR #5 Bridger, Pa. Legal [Re: Hern] #7839895
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Thought you meant axil
said the gear head, that now rides a,,,,never mind lol..





Re: New Trap- HMR #5 Bridger, Pa. Legal [Re: Hern] #7839910
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Nice looking trap, but how much are we talking on the price?

Re: New Trap- HMR #5 Bridger, Pa. Legal [Re: Wright Brothers] #7839953
04/06/23 05:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Wright Brothers
No dis to Wardens but if I was asking approval,
I'd ask the Magistrate or Judge, or Lawyer.
Someone will be along with the written law.

Way to go guys, good luck.


I'll be that guy. grin

The written law, at least what I can find is vague, intentionally vague like a lot of our Game Code if you want my opinion.

Pennsylvania Statutes Title 34 Pa.C.S.A. Game § 2361.

Unlawful acts concerning taking of furbearers

(a) General prohibitions.--Except as otherwise provided in this title, it is unlawful for any person to:

(8) Use a pole trap, deadfall, poison, explosive, chemical, leg-hold trap with teeth on the jaws or with a jaw spread exceeding six and one-half inches or any device prohibited by regulation of the commission.

No mention that I can find on how that trap is to be measured. So I take it to mean not exceeding 6.5" outside to outside of the jaws on any axis. Keep it completely under 6.5" and you have taken any arbitrary discretion away from the warden.


Eh...wot?

Re: New Trap- HMR #5 Bridger, Pa. Legal [Re: Hern] #7840000
04/06/23 06:07 PM
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If your warden measures frame post to frame post that’s not the legal measurement. If so then every bridger number 3 is illegal and very well used trap in pa.

Re: New Trap- HMR #5 Bridger, Pa. Legal [Re: The hammer] #7840101
04/06/23 08:07 PM
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I agree .you measure across the pan. not lever to lever.

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