Jobs all over the place paying 20+ an hour. What possesses a male to want to be an assistant at a daycare for probably 12-13 bucks an hour? Seems obvious to me. Locally, 2 men have been charged with raping kids recently. One worked at four daycares before it was finally noticed on a camera by a parent during naptime. I just yanked my kid out of his daycare because ANOTHER guy showed up while my wife was watching the camera from work. 2nd they hired in a couple months. New employee, no notification by the daycare. Both times. Just all of the sudden, there they were. A quick google search after I had to raise my voice to the director to give me the guys last name, which initially she refused to provide, showed arrests for drugs, burglary, pursuit, and domestic assault for the latest d-bag. She assured me they did a “thorough” background check.
Kid seems confused and sad, doing my best to explain to him why he had to leave.
Do NOT trust your daycare center gives two craps about your children.

DWC, sorry about your situation.

Yeah, there's a lot of evil sickness out there. Its hard to guard against it, day cares struggle between rock and hard places (hard to pay higher wages and finding ood people to trust as workers) just like nursing homes do. I also saw it with my 30 years, on and off with the Scouts. Sign of the times. I hope you find a good place for your kids.

2 working parents is not good for raising children. Jmo.

Sorry for your situation. There are churches around me that offer day care. Costs the same but hopefully a better environment.

Thanks, I do have a good place for the kids, just a little more running around. I get that people dont wanna work, need money ect. But if its between putting a criminal with kids and having to cut back on how many kids they have, this is a no brainer. If something happens with this POS being there, the people who employ him should be charged alongside him.

Thats why grandma is in play and now a church preschool. The daycare was solely for the social aspect because he hadnt really been around other kids. This also was a preschool. We couldnt make it on just one of our salaries as things are. But if grandma wasnt available, id downgrade houses and lifestyle to make it work for one of us to stay home. Unfortunately a lot of parents dont think this way.

Just like many business’ operating on profit. They hire under low margins, operate under low margins, and depend on no flack coming back.

We had a big local provider of daycare of infants through elementary children fold due to SA charges against staff.

Awesome

You made the absolute right decision DWC, that being said it is worth something to mention that there are plenty of daycares ran by older couples as a way to give back to the community and (at least in Minnesota) there are plenty of examples like that. Seems a little unfair the discount the fact that there are plenty of good men in this world (or so I hope) and the same thing that would push a man to become a nurse, doctor, or teacher could inspire one to want to help kids in their formative years. However, thorough background checks on daycare workers kinda seems like a no brainer for those employing them…
August

A background check for these places consists if a paid online search for CONVICTIONS. Thats a far cry from what theyve been investigated or even charged for. Google is your friend.

Not sure why you would assume a church day care would be a better environment……….

Men aren’t the only pedophiles…………

It would be great if all Moms could be stay at home moms but I don’t see that happening in the United States.

And see that’s messed up, if I have to get an FBI background check to exercise my constitutional right you should probably need one to get paid to watch and foster the next generation.
August

Day care center?

Why would your parents or your wife's parents be hiring help to watch the kids?

wissmiss X2

When I was a kid we only had one car. One land line, One antenna driven TV. Cell phones, internet cable were not invented. Moms stayed home. We rode bikes with out helmets, hunted fished trapped played "army" and had bb gun wars. Got burned with fireworks, went camping with smuggled whiskey and all survived. Ran all over the country both on foot and bikes. Rode calves at a dairy (till we got caught) and learned how to think from all of it. Studied the revolutionary war in grade school and the constitution in high school civics. You either passed or you didnt. In little league baseball you won or you didn't.

Two parents working just to buy more stuff is a bad idea.

It could be done but everybody wouldn’t be keeping up with the Jones.

The economic environment these days makes it very difficult to raise a family on one income. Some people do it, but it takes discipline and a darn good income. I have four kids who do it and they only use daycare occasionally in an emergency and I don't know if they ever will again after what happened to River. You just have to adjust your living standards to your single income. They all do very well. They refuse to sacrifice their family life to keep up with the Joneses.

I know a guy in his 20's who works at a daycare and loves it because he just loves kids. He's really good with kids and I can't see him ever being a problem but of course you never know. To see him around the kids you would never have an inkling that his intentions are anything other than just creating a loving environment with children, certainly he's the exception.

Hey Bernie, after seeing the responses to this thread maybe only Minnesota (specifically St. Louis county 😉) has trustworthy people working in daycare’s… I’d have to agree about the economics of raising a family on one income tend to be hard to make work in this day and age, especially for those who live closer to urban centers with the higher cost of livin’, but that ain’t nothin like the cost of livin’ high. Here’s hoping someone gets that reference.
August

Bingo!

We did it.
Homeschooled too.

Was a LOT of sacrifice and work, but I think it was worth it.
It IS doable, but you REALLY have to want to do it.

LOL, wife and I are getting ready to take our first extended " just us" vacation since 1995.

Pretty high cost of living here, and we made it work.
Reference, JJ.

Jamey Johnson

You have to live where you can afford.

Dave,
Glad to hear I’m not the only one who likes good music! I sure as (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) respect the effort you put in to make a single income household work and really hope that you enjoy your upcoming vacation!
August

Wasn't single income, we had bizarre schedules, plus side jobs.
I worked Sundays for 33 years, she worked Saturdays for 28.

Maybe we've been married so long because we never see each other, lol?

You dont need cell phones, internet, satellite tv, video games and two cars. Add in daycare cost and a lot of Moms are just paying for that stuff.

Wife and I got married we were both working. She got pregnant, had the baby, quit work and stayed home. My take home pay was about $165.00 a week. Had one car, a home and that’s about it. lol Her grandparents lived down the road a piece and if somebody wanted us they called them and they would come and get us. Just 32 years ago.

As a hospital chaplain in a Pediatric unit, I witnessed countless broken families that suffered from one core thing. And it wasn't lack of "stuff."
It was a lack of relationships. To love and be loved. It's in us all whether we say so or not.
Stuff has a short pleasure fuse and it burns out quick. Relationships aren't perfect but they sustain us. As people.

Love your family. When it's easy. When it's hard. Not one or the other. There's no such thing as a perfect other person anyway. Ask someone about "you" sometime and see what an honest answer looks like. If I ask people (and I often do) about me, I get some stinging responses for sure. And that's called honesty. Which is good.

Can't tell you how many times I counseled a parent of a child in PICU, admitted for suicide attempt, to Put. Away. Your. Phone. Right. Now. Please.

Brokenness includes the nation's infatuation with its epidemic of hyper-sexualization and all that goes with that. Perversion has a root cause but as a nation, we're fertilizing this field as never before.
So we reap what we sow. Sadly for many.
Look at the stories on this one forum day in, day out, and you get a glimpse of how difficult it is to stand against what is evil. Day in, day out.

So we keep our gaze fixed on the only One who can fix us and pray He hasn't given us over completely to our selfish desires.
Some days, it seems He has.

Blessings,
Mark

Plus, she needs work clothes, buy lunches out, Starbucks on way to work, more fuel to get to and from work....

Working in day care is not a man's job. That left to woman

My wife is a retired High School English Teacher and then became Principal. I worked third shift my whole life. We made it work with all of our kids. They went to Private Christian Schools and now we make sure our Grandkids do as well. They were never put in Day Care but we had Family that helped. We also helped them. Guess what people. I still do not have a cell Phone. Don't want one either.

We had problems with daycare. THen wife quit her full time job and stayed home. Son does cca cyber school. Wife drives part time hauling special needs kids to school and our child can ride along. He still gets out to social events with other kids and has friends over alot. Its alot easier now and daycare was like a mortgage payment. Less stress now.

As a Federal LEO, you would be surprised how many female sex offenders (SO's) there are. Male SO's tend to get all the spotlight with news and longer convictions as well. Female SO's are typically get less time or get brushed under the rug all together. I've dealt with 1000's of each, and it will make you sick knowing/seeing the things they have done. Definitely changes your perspective on life and how you view the public in general.

Just this week the Maryland state attorney released a report concerning sexual abuse that has been reported in
the Baltimore Archdioceses Catholic church Going back nearly 40 years there found over 600 case of sexual abuse committed by at least 158 people associated with the church In many of those cases it was known that the situation was happening .But the misconduct was covered up by the people in charge So evil people exist every day and every where you go Our society seems to be seeking a new level of self indulgent sickness every day and in every aspect of our society.

WOW!!!! And what century are you living in……………….

I suppose you think men shouldn’t be nurses or hair stylists or secretaries or seamstresses or any other occupation that is considered “women’s work”. Wake up this is the 21st century not the Middle Ages!!!!

I do not believe youve worked with 1,000’s of female sex offenders.

That’s what you got out of that?

“My” first born went to a daycare for about a month and the wife picked him up one day with a bite mark on his cheek. Now mind you he was only maybe two months. Well, at that point I wasn’t always a good person. After letting the daycare know my thoughts I called my wife and told her this was her last day, she could let them know or I would. Since then she didn’t go back to work until they were old enough to take care of themselves.
When CJ came along we decided that it was too much so I said you can quit or I will. She decided to be a stay at home mom again. She had talked about going back to work and then we heard we were having a grandchild so now she’s a stay at home mom and “Ganny”, lol. I wouldn’t have it any other way. My 8-4 job pays the bills, my trapping pays for fun. When we had “our” first, her paycheck was paying for daycare. If she missed a day because of a sick youngun we had to dip in my money to pay. It really wasn’t worth it.

Many children come from single parent situations and do not have a male figure in their lives. They don’t deserve a bad male however.

Law Dog when someone says something that seems like its 100 percent impossible, yes I will question what they say.

Very true Charles. A LOT of sorry men in this world

Males can make great babysitters. This male has taken all of his younguns and grandyounguns to work with him. They've helped run trotlines, chased after coonhounds and trapped critters.

So if a guy offers help you pick that help apart word by word that’s why people stop offering help without consulting their lawyers it’s not worth the effort often. I doubt he had any ill intentions or he would not of offered the help to begin with your a hard guy to figure out often. I had the same thought as I see the same news but hesitated saying anything for this exact reason.

For your credibility's sake do you have any way to verify that number? Or at least create a reasonable defense/explanation for it?

What I took from that is he was saying that women were practically as bad as men when it came to sex offenses, becauses hes dealt with “1,000’s of each”. He indicated that we are simply lied to about the women and they are hidden. part of my point if this thread is i dont feel very comfortable with men in a daycare roll. Call me sexist i dont care. This guy trying to make it sound like the women are nearly as bad as the men is just wrong. Google is your friend
Im not hard to figure out. When i know im right about something, i wont back down.

Nobody can raise your kid better than you , or family you trust .

LOL. Ok.

This is far more common than abuse out of daycare. It’s weird that you never hear stuff like “don’t trust them” regarding such institutions like we’ve just been told never to trust a daycare.

I think the point was it was not just males that pray on kids just look at the recent reports of female teachers in the news. Male children are often the victims rather than females was suggested at the last training I attended when I was a youth worker. Not much I have not heard of in the last 35 years you sure it hear about it enough times it sure seems like 1,000 times in the end.

Most people seldom deal with this in their life others deal with it everyday.

Most of these female teachers are getting with WILLING 14-17 year old boys, hardly the same as child molestation.
Heck, I had a few in HS I would have willingly fallen victim to...

Many are even younger, at 14 I’d would of cut and run even at that age, even the older kids are groomed one way or another don’t kid yourself we all thought it but that’s about it. So would you be proud if your children was a participant in such actions and not feel like a victim?

I’m afraid you may be wrong about your knowledge of the background check. My wife and I own and operate a thriving Daycare and at least here in the state of Tx we have to have a state initiated criminal background check.
It red flags even some minor things and the state tells us we can’t have that person in our Daycare.
As far as men working in a daycare my wife and I have agreed it’s not the best option mainly because of perceptions such as yours. I am there at the facility a lot and the kids love me. I promise you I am NOT a pervert or child molester.

My cousin was raped by an older boy at a church day care . Now she Is one of the mental cases that wants to be a man. Rape was over 25 years ago.

Don't think they are safe just becuse they are in a church.

Often you can look at a person and see that they have been abused like the singer Billie Eilish when she first became known she screamed of a sex abuse victim just by her dress and demeanor but I’ve seen it before but it was still easy to spot.

I thought it went without saying that NO ONE trusts their kids around Catholic priests anymore.

While I agree that there is a huge difference between a woman and a 16 year old boy versus a man and an 8 year old girl... both are still wrong and gross.

Would you be fine if you found out your 14 year old daughter was sleeping with her 40 year old history teacher?

Well then the fatty who runs the place lied to me. A google search showed 4 arrests which were in online articles. A buddy in law enforcement told me there are constant domestic issues along with drug use with this person. So it either just shows convictions, thats all they take into account, or they just dont care as long as youre not a registered sex offender. One article stated this guy wrapped his arms around his fiances neck and slammed her head into a wall.

Child molestation among clergy is hardly confined to Catholicism. For some reason though thats the faith you always hear about.

A man working in a daycare seems odd to me.

There is a reason my wife stays home and homeschools the kids. Not many are willing to make the life choices that allow them to do that other just don't want to.
I'm lucky enough to have a job that allows her to stay home and a wife that sees raising the kids as her priority.