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Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: yukon254] #7845293
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He is obviously one of the theys. He is not the science. The science would be from what the not vaccine manufacturers claimed from their studies.


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Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: beaverpeeler] #7845294
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Those covid shots turned me into a newt!!!!



.........but I got better.

HA HA HA!! All,of you or just certain Parts???? LOL!!!


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: Dirt] #7845300
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Originally Posted by Dirt
He is obviously one of the theys. He is not the science. The science would be from what the not vaccine manufacturers claimed from their studies.



I think one of the bigger problems is that Fauci decided to be the FACE of science, and that any questioning of him or his agency, was questioning SCIENCE itself, and that couldn't be tolerated. ( This from an underling who resigned his Federal post over it)

When in fact, science is all about questioning....

Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: yukon254] #7845304
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The Vaccine was not a Vaccine and they did not Test it anywhere long and thorough enough. My Cardiologist is also a Professor at Morgantown University. He is also the one who did BOTH of the Pig Valves in my Heart. He is also a surgeon. When he tells me not to take the jab I do not do it.


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Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: charles] #7845309
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Originally Posted by charles
I've lost a kidney and a portion of my colon to two different cancers. Since then I've had four Covid shots. I get my medical advice from my doctor, not a slanted publication, a politician, or a website.

The earliest outbreaks of Covid were deadly. I lost two acquaintances. The current variance is much milder. My wife and I had Covid last summer and took Paxlovid. We felt normal in 36 hours.

The jab puts the odds in your favor. Same as with so many diseases we have conquered with vaccines and medications.

You don't know that. You're speculating.

Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: yukon254] #7845310
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well, before an intentional release of a bio weapon 'they' would already have a vax, but that vax is not what they gave to people....


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Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: Dirt] #7845318
04/14/23 01:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
If I remember the science, ( not what people said) the not vaccines would lesson the severity of a covid infection. No claim was made either way as to preventing infection or transmission. Initial claims by the manufactures may have included no ICU or deaths from covid for their sample?


Huh ?? Seriously ?? Your memory is really bad. They absolutely said over and over again that the vax would stop transmission. The mandates and lockdowns would have made no sense otherwise.


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Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: yukon254] #7845322
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They said lots of things. Pull up a study (the Science) conducted by the manufactures. What did the manufactures studies say?


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Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: Dirt] #7845324
04/14/23 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by Dirt
If I remember the science, ( not what people said) the not vaccines would lesson the severity of a covid infection. No claim was made either way as to preventing infection or transmission. Initial claims by the manufactures may have included no ICU or deaths from covid for their sample?


Heres a few lies that might jog your memory...

It was proven a long time before mr science made this ridiculous statement that vaccinated people could ( and did ) spread covid just as easily as non vaxxed. They tested viral loads in both vaxxed and unvaxxed and the vaxxed had just as much.

https://thehill.com/homenews/sunday...le-become-dead-ends-for-the-coronavirus/

CDC nonsense

https://www.businessinsider.com/cdc...people-do-not-carry-covid-19-2021-3?op=1

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/202...inated-dont-carry-cant-spread-virus.html

List could go on and on....


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Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: yukon254] #7845325
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would you intentionally release a bio-weapon without having the vax first? Did fauci or his wife get the vid? Did obama's get the vid? Did soros get the vid? Gates? and the list goes on....look at the elite and how many of them got the vid...chinas leaders?

I never did that research myself but it would be interesting.


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Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: yukon254] #7845326
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I retired from Prudential, so I have some knowledge of life insurance data. I know the life expectancy in Americans decreased during Covid. I assume Covid played a major part in the increased deaths, whether because of Covid or in conjunction with Covid.

Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: Dirt] #7845327
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Originally Posted by Dirt
They said lots of things. Pull up a study (the Science) conducted by the manufactures. What did the manufactures studies say?



That was hard to pin down until they were taken to court. Remember that ?? Remember they wanted to keep all their data from the public for 75 years ?? Ring a bell ?? Then an honest judge ruled they had to release the data. Then they tried to slow walk the release so back to court they went. In the end their data proved very troubling for anyone with an ounce of sense.


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Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: charles] #7845328
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Originally Posted by charles
I retired from Prudential, so I have some knowledge of life insurance data. I know the life expectancy in Americans decreased during Covid. I assume Covid played a major part in the increased deaths, whether because of Covid or in conjunction with Covid.



Then you must be aware of the VAERs and Yellow Card systems in the US and UK ?? Are you denying the numbers they showed ? Clearly the covid vax should have been stopped after just a few months because those systems showed major red flags. Other vaccines were pulled from the market with just a fraction of the data ...


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Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: charles] #7845334
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Originally Posted by charles
I retired from Prudential, so I have some knowledge of life insurance data. I know the life expectancy in Americans decreased during Covid. I assume Covid played a major part in the increased deaths, whether because of Covid or in conjunction with Covid.




And how many people couldn't see a doctor during this nonsense and now are WAY worse than if early detection of illness had occured, sans the Covid lockdowns?

Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: gcs] #7845390
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Originally Posted by gcs
Well, just so you know, there are doctors that advise their patients NOT to take the jab. They're following the science too....


Yes and I'm lucky to have one, he told me the risks outweigh the benefits. I've never had the jab and neither have my wife and kids.


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Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: charles] #7845394
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Originally Posted by charles
I've lost a kidney and a portion of my colon to two different cancers. Since then I've had four Covid shots. I get my medical advice from my doctor, not a slanted publication, a politician, or a website.

The earliest outbreaks of Covid were deadly. I lost two acquaintances. The current variance is much milder. My wife and I had Covid last summer and took Paxlovid. We felt normal in 36 hours.

The jab puts the odds in your favor. Same as with so many diseases we have conquered with vaccines and medications.

Dr's tell you what the government (CDC) tells them to in fear of being sued and or license taken, there's very few that will stand up for what they really believe,they truly are the sheep.

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Originally Posted by Dirt
They said lots of things. Pull up a study (the Science) conducted by the manufactures. What did the manufactures studies say?


Whatever they wanted them to.

Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: nate] #7845400
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Originally Posted by nate
Originally Posted by charles
I've lost a kidney and a portion of my colon to two different cancers. Since then I've had four Covid shots. I get my medical advice from my doctor, not a slanted publication, a politician, or a website.

The earliest outbreaks of Covid were deadly. I lost two acquaintances. The current variance is much milder. My wife and I had Covid last summer and took Paxlovid. We felt normal in 36 hours.

The jab puts the odds in your favor. Same as with so many diseases we have conquered with vaccines and medications.

Dr's tell you what the government (CDC) tells them to in fear of being sued and or license taken, there's very few that will stand up for what they really believe,they truly are the sheep.



Mine told me he was afraid that the AMA was going to push so that Docs couldn't see non vaccinated patients

Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: yukon254] #7845443
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The Trump worshipers posting on this thread - how do y’all reconcile this?

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-says-he-saved-100-million-lives-covid-vaccines-1774178


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Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: Average Joe] #7845473
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Originally Posted by Average Joe
The Trump worshipers posting on this thread - how do y’all reconcile this?

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-says-he-saved-100-million-lives-covid-vaccines-1774178


Easy he is wrong. The data proves it. Have a look at the numbers for yourself.

https://openvaers.com/


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