charles- I'm glad you're still alive and kicking!! And you keep on believing whatever you want to believe, that's part of the freedom of an American. Just remember that no one here gets out alive. Well, some might if a certain event occurs from Above but that's a different thread...

It's Newsweek so it's gotta be true. His constituents liked his policies. They never claimed him to be a doctor. You see, conservatives think for themselves, while the left likes to be told what to do. Anyone that would listen to a politician for medical advice is foolish. I don't think conservatives made there choice based on what Trump may or may not have said.

Remember Biden saying, " Who's going to take Trump's vaccine? Not me!"
Then taking credit for the vaccine.
And when proven to be ineffective or worse, detrimental, it'll be back to Trumps vaccine.

Just the nature of dog turds and politicians.
But I repeat myself...

Phizer study

"CONCLUSIONS
A two-dose regimen of BNT162b2 conferred 95% protection against Covid-19 in persons 16 years of age or older. Safety over a median of 2 months was similar to that of other viral vaccines. "

I was looking for the words " prevention from getting and transmitting"


"These data do not address whether vaccination prevents asymptomatic infection"


" The results demonstrate that Covid-19 can be prevented by immunization, provide proof of concept that RNA-based vaccines are a promising new approach for protecting humans against infectious diseases, and demonstrate the speed with which an RNA-based vaccine can be developed with a sufficient investment of resources."

What to conclude with mix messages and short study time frame and a rush to market?

I suspect that neither of the mRNA 'vid vaxes will actually be "brought to market" outside of their current EUA. I can't imagine that either Phizer or Moderna ever having these out as licensed products where people can actually sue them for injury or death of loved ones. I'd love to see that package insert!! I suspect that those jabs will go off screen as soon as the EUA officially comes to an end. Or people will have to sign a fairly detailed consent form waiving rights of lawsuits by taking the "medicine".

The federal government as a slush fund to pay people for vax or other med injury of pharma products that out as EUA but I don't think they have paid anything to people with 'vid vax injury so far. I've heard zippy of any payouts unless some sort of NDAs have to be signed to get any payments.

I dont think it was very hard to come to a conclusion at all; at least it wasn't for me. The message was quite clear. They said over and over again that the vax was 95% effective ( or better ) at preventing you from getting the virus. It wasn't until the courts forced them to release their data that it became clear that they were lying. A lot of us figured it out long before then though.

The safety issue was what I couldn't get past. They kept saying it was safe and effective but how could they know it was safe when it had only been a few months. That was an obvious lie. It still hasn't been long enough to know. Some of the worst health problems from the harshest street drugs can take years to manifest.

There is now concern that it is causing issues with very young children's immune systems not developing properly, is not " learning" how to work, which may lead to autoimmune issues.

And since the mortality rates from Covid for children is functionally ZERO, tell me WHY we are going down this road???

I don't think that is just in children from the amount of sickness I've seen among the vaccinated that I know.

They ABSOLUTELY ststed that getting the Vaccine would prevent you from getting it and stop the spread. Everyone remembers that very clearly unless they are in serious denial. Same with Masks. They still push that when it does no good!!!

Not only the Covid vaccine, 1 in 35 kids born in NA has autism


Wasn’t always like this

Speculation is that it’s due to all the vaccines children take

They had to stop claiming that the vax would stop infection and transmission when that lie became too obvious, but they did claim it. Then the mantra became it lessened severity.

"Follow the science," but they still can't define "woman?"

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Thats a really good question, and one more and more doctors are asking. Switzerland is not recommending anyone get the vax now and im sure everyone knows what the Florida surgeon general has said. Lots of great doctors out there that have been sounding the alarm on this for two years now. A gastroenterologist was on the news the other night. She was talking about a study she did on doctors before and after vaccination. She tested their stomach bacteria before and after vax. Before they were normal with millions of good bacteria and after it was zero. Six months later it was still zero. When you understand that your stomach is a huge part of your immune system you understand how spooky that discovery is.

This is a load of bull. Just more conspiracy nonsense. Anti vaxxers are just not that bright IMHO. ALL medication and vaccinations come with some risks.
You are free to take your chances and not listen to the experts. Evolution will sort it all out! Darwin is on the job.

Well, it COULD be that every kid that has a disagreeable stretch in childhood (99%?) is now either labeled autistic, disabled and/or medicated.

Except the vax was NOT voluntary for millions of people, People have been fired for refusing to get vaxed, children were not allowed in schools and Doctors and nurses were mandated to get it or lose their jobs...

Now that issues are coming out you still believe the "experts"?

The expert that most listened to was Fauci, a serial liar.

Have you been around these kids with autism? It's not just a case of poor behavior.