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Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: yukon254] #7845479
04/14/23 09:50 PM
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Yep. Not good leadership from the top. A lot of people could have been saved had we acted sooner and in unison. Should have never been political.

Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: charles] #7845481
04/14/23 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by charles
Yep. Not good leadership from the top. A lot of people could have been saved had we acted sooner and in unison. Should have never been political.


Point me to the things that are’t political? I’ll wait…


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Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: yukon254] #7845482
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My wife works at a nursing home, and every time they come and give the residents their booster shots they have another wave of covid. It has happened every time. It makes you wonder.

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Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: yukon254] #7845517
04/14/23 10:28 PM
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Originally Posted by yukon254
Originally Posted by Average Joe
The Trump worshipers posting on this thread - how do y’all reconcile this?

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-says-he-saved-100-million-lives-covid-vaccines-1774178


Easy he is wrong. The data proves it. Have a look at the numbers for yourself.

https://openvaers.com/




OpenVAERS is known to be biased, just saying…

OpenVAERS
Type of site Anti-vaccine
Founded January 2021
Founder(s) Liz Willner
URL openvaers.com
OpenVAERS is an American anti-vaccine website created in 2021 by Liz Willner.[1][2] The website misrepresents data from the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System (VAERS) to promote misinformation about COVID-19 vaccines.


I’ve been sayin yes sir all day at work, I’ve been sayin yes ma’am at home…
Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: yukon254] #7845523
04/14/23 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by yukon254
Originally Posted by Average Joe
The Trump worshipers posting on this thread - how do y’all reconcile this?

https://www.newsweek.com/trump-says-he-saved-100-million-lives-covid-vaccines-1774178


Easy he is wrong. The data proves it. Have a look at the numbers for yourself.

https://openvaers.com/


Point is that the rabid Trump fans who are anti-vax will have to admit either Trump is wrong, or they are. As difficult as that may be.


I’ve been sayin yes sir all day at work, I’ve been sayin yes ma’am at home…
Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: yukon254] #7845524
04/14/23 10:37 PM
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A whole lot of people are anti vax now. If someone still thinks they are safe and effective after all the information that is out there now then they need another booster or two.


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Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: yukon254] #7845538
04/14/23 11:21 PM
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some people just will not admit when they are wrong no matter the proof, I am surprised how common it is...


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Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: Marty] #7845553
04/15/23 12:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Marty
some people just will not admit when they are wrong no matter the proof, I am surprised how common it is...


Yea me too. A few of us have been talking about it for awhile now and the consensus is that they are embarrassed that they were fooled so easily. The government used the oldest trick in the book (fear) and had them eating out of their hand within hours.

I still see people driving alone in a car in the middle of nowhere @-30 with a mask on and Im not kidding. It used to be comical until you really start thinking about it. Then you start feeling sorry for them because they are that stupid, and there really isnt a nicer way to say it.


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Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: yukon254] #7845554
04/15/23 12:13 AM
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Stupid is all around us. It is a shame.


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Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: nate] #7845570
04/15/23 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by nate
Originally Posted by Dirt
They said lots of things. Pull up a study (the Science) conducted by the manufactures. What did the manufactures studies say?


Whatever they wanted them to.


Possibly, but that was the science that they released. What other science was there? Number 1, I don't have a doctor and I never got a shot. Why would I, even if the not a vaccine was the greatest thing since sliced bread, since I am a low probability to have problems from covid and the science they released in the beginning did not claim to prevent me from getting covid and transmitting it to an elder comorbidities person. There is no point in taking that shot. Because other people were convinced to take a pointless shot, because everybody lied to them is on them. They should have known from the beginning that the shots do not prevent covid. I don't remember the drug manufacturers making this claim on their studies. I could be wrong.

That is just the way I remember it, because I was trying to find out if the covid shot would help me not give it to elderly people I didn't want to possibly kill.

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Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: yukon254] #7845610
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I think a lot of us on here live by our common sense, intuition, street smart, whatever you want to call it. When they started the bribery all bets were off. " Take the shot and we'll by you a cheese burger" .lol.

Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: charles] #7845615
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Originally Posted by charles
Yep. Not good leadership from the top. A lot of people could have been saved had we acted sooner and in unison. Should have never been political.

Sure am glad that's changed.

Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: yukon254] #7845620
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The real scandal with this whole covid mess was the suppression/threatening/mockery by .gov and their allies in the media of alternate treatments other than the vaccine. That alone killed no telling how many.

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Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: yukon254] #7845639
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And don't forget The Idiot with his "winter of death" and similar tripe. Yup. Science.

Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: beaverpeeler] #7845673
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Originally Posted by beaverpeeler
Those covid shots turned me into a newt!!!!



.........but I got better.

You cant blame that on the shot, jeez!

Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: yukon254] #7845676
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I wonder if Any of those millions of respirators ever got used, Anyone ever know someone who was in the outside hospital in new york, anyone ever get a relative out of one of the hundreds of reefer vans in new york?

Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: yukon254] #7845678
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Its funny how soon some forget. Dirt says he doesnt remember the manufacturers claiming it would keep him from getting covid. How could anyone forget the 95% efficacy claims by Pfizer ?? It was everywhere.

They had to claim the vax prevented the virus so they could justify the lockdowns and mandates.



Heres some more propaganda they pushed back then...

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/pfizer-covid-vaccine-pfizer-95-percent-effective-fda/

https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-vaccines-pfizer-idUSL4N2HZ3VS

https://www.pfizer.com/news/press-r...-conclude-phase-3-study-covid-19-vaccine

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Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: Diggerman] #7845681
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
I wonder if Any of those millions of respirators ever got used, Anyone ever know someone who was in the outside hospital in new york, anyone ever get a relative out of one of the hundreds of reefer vans in new york?



Yup, crazy times.
US mil.hospital ship to NY, didn't get used.

Cuomo praising Trump, then demanding all the ventilators.

Then Coumo sticking Covid+ folks INTO nursing homes where he killed 10,000+.
But all we remember is his nipple piercings and sexual harassment..

Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: yukon254] #7845744
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An interesting double read last evening (2 essays in 1). 'vid vax skeptic docs who attended the recent "World Vaccine Congress" in DC. The essay "From the Belly of Beast" inside of Alex Berenson's piece is a little longer but comes from a physician who actually still works with patients. A wild side note is that one of the main guys from this "World Vaccine Congress" admitted to the doctor that he had been vax injured from the 'vid jab but is still a believer in it. What faith!! Anyway, the good doctor gives many of these people the benefit of the doubt that they just haven't been outside of their own little "bubble" enough to know more about what they're saying. I'm probably not that nice. Hubris is a very nasty, toxic, and overall bad thing, especially for so called "leaders" to keep living in...

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p...mp;isFreemail=false&utm_medium=email


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Re: Follow the science they said... [Re: charles] #7845749
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Originally Posted by charles
Yep. Not good leadership from the top. A lot of people could have been saved had we acted sooner and in unison. Should have never been political.

Because when a new virus breaks out, they already have a playback. Smdh.

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