Trapping beaver with sac oil
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04/18/23 07:20 PM
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Many of us have used sac oil mixed with castor to trap beaver, however I would be interested in hearing accounts from those that use pure sac oil and nothing else and how that compared to using straight castor. It has been noticed by me that many recommend sac oil as a change up, or to catch a castor shy beaver. Anybody use pure sac oil the whole season?
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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04/18/23 07:26 PM
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Never have but I'd be down to experiment with it next season. I'm not giving up my go to bait but why not give it a go. You're a much more experienced beaver trapper than me but what do I have to lose?
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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04/18/23 07:36 PM
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It works great! I use it on those sharp beavers that have an aversion to lures. It can be used all season long too. It doesn't take much either. I like to make a small slick spot on the bank and using a pine needle, or other small twig, I dip it in the oil and only dab it on the slick spot in three or our places. Then I throw the stick/straw into the water so the oil will spread out leaving a trail on the surface. It doesn't initiate a territorial response. I usually set a foothold for a front foot catch. I don't use 330s, because most of the beavers I use this on are already educated. This is one of those tricks my pappy taught me.
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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04/18/23 07:39 PM
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Make three sets side by side-one with castor and one with oil from the stones and one with regular castor mix with oil from stones.. See which one or if all three catch a beaver overnight.
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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04/18/23 07:50 PM
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I used cat lure with sack out for beaver one spring. I was working a coyote job and the rancher asked ne to trap a colony of beaver. The lure was Vicks menthol rub sac oil and some catnip. It worked fine it was all I had with me at camp.
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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04/18/23 09:55 PM
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I used sac oil only for probably the last 5 years doing control work. I agree with Paul that it doesn't cause an "attack" response. I started using it when castor prices went up, and I happened to have a discussion with another trapper about sac oil. He said to keep the male oil separate from the female oil. I always did that, but never did think that it made a difference. Both oils attracted both sexes. I did usually use conibears, but also usually used existing slides. I always rigged so the trapped beaver was well away from the set. I had dozens of locations that produced a half dozen beaver.
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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04/18/23 10:10 PM
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I save sac oil as a last resort lure. It has always worked when everything else has quit working. I'm not positive castor or any other lure would work as well after the beavers have been messed with a few days.That natural smell at a natural location usually closes the deal.
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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04/18/23 10:31 PM
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I use sac oil more than castor or even castor lures. It works just as good and even better in some situations.
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: Bigbrownie]
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04/18/23 10:55 PM
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How well does sac oil store? Can it be used next season? Add sodium benzoate? Sac oil does seem to spoil, but I have used it like that, and the beaver didn't care. I never added anything to it. I was always good as long as it lasted. Every beaver has some, so not hard to come by.
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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04/18/23 11:22 PM
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I used to mix up poplar chips and some sac oil to refresh sets on some of my lines on the Oregon coast. It was really easy to use as I just reached into the bucket, grabbed a handful of chips and threw it on the other side of the 330. Got excellent results.
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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04/19/23 05:12 AM
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Don Nichols did a demo I watched once. He said the only lure he used was sack oil. Castor was worth to much. He also said the same thing Paul says about the response. Don also said if you missed in one set they did not seem to be leary fo the sack oil in another set. Years back I targeted nutria. I had one basic set when first setting up. It was a pocket set with a fairly deep step down made high on steep banks so it stayed active in rising waters. Every set got tail oil. I used a no2 trap. Caught a bunch of beaver with the nutes and no need for downers as it is pretty hard for a beaver to chew out of a trap that small. Ted
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: willvalley]
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04/19/23 06:29 AM
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Don Nichols did a demo I watched once. He said the only lure he used was sack oil. Castor was worth to much. He also said the same thing Paul says about the response. Don also said if you missed in one set they did not seem to be leary fo the sack oil in another set. Years back I targeted nutria. I had one basic set when first setting up. It was a pocket set with a fairly deep step down made high on steep banks so it stayed active in rising waters. Every set got tail oil. I used a no2 trap. Caught a bunch of beaver with the nutes and no need for downers as it is pretty hard for a beaver to chew out of a trap that small. Ted Beaver do not chew out....they twist after tangling the trap.
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
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04/19/23 07:40 AM
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Don Nichols did a demo I watched once. He said the only lure he used was sack oil. Castor was worth to much. He also said the same thing Paul says about the response. Don also said if you missed in one set they did not seem to be leary fo the sack oil in another set. Years back I targeted nutria. I had one basic set when first setting up. It was a pocket set with a fairly deep step down made high on steep banks so it stayed active in rising waters. Every set got tail oil. I used a no2 trap. Caught a bunch of beaver with the nutes and no need for downers as it is pretty hard for a beaver to chew out of a trap that small. Ted Beaver do not chew out....they twist after tangling the trap. Thanks for the clarification SW. I'm no beaver trapper and that one had me scratching my head.
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: willvalley]
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04/19/23 08:28 AM
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Don Nichols did a demo I watched once. He said the only lure he used was sack oil. Castor was worth to much. He also said the same thing Paul says about the response. Don also said if you missed in one set they did not seem to be leary fo the sack oil in another set. Years back I targeted nutria. I had one basic set when first setting up. It was a pocket set with a fairly deep step down made high on steep banks so it stayed active in rising waters. Every set got tail oil. I used a no2 trap. Caught a bunch of beaver with the nutes and no need for downers as it is pretty hard for a beaver to chew out of a trap that small. Ted So, you caught beaver on BTO?
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
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04/19/23 10:13 AM
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I use it very lightly in my castor lure recipe
And stand alone attractant on tough final beaver
Usually sac oil from one of their own colony. I have observed that younger beaver in the family group do not necessarily work the castor sets the way the older beaver do. I see this in ponds quite a bit but it could be anywhere. I always keep the oil sacs of the big female and have used a single drop per set to catch those pesky holdouts that would not work the plain castor sets. The explanation that sac oil does not elicit a territorial response make sense. It is as if the younger beaver (a year old or less) are not conditioned to the territorial response yet but they will sure check out the sac oil.
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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04/19/23 10:21 AM
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That it is attractive to the kits would be a downside for me. I'm always trying to avoid catching the little guys.
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: Ole]
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04/19/23 10:24 AM
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Have used sac oil for years and can't tell a difference in effectiveness from store bought lures. Use it year round. Yep, works great for also. I have found no difference also.
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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04/19/23 10:54 AM
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That it is attractive to the kits would be a downside for me. I'm always trying to avoid catching the little guys. That is the difference in fur trapping versus damage control. The last one is the one I am after!
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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04/19/23 09:23 PM
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Thanks for all the responses. I'm going to do some experimentation next season and see what happens.
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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04/20/23 12:59 PM
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It works great! I use it on those sharp beavers that have an aversion to lures. It can be used all season long too. It doesn't take much either. I like to make a small slick spot on the bank and using a pine needle, or other small twig, I dip it in the oil and only dab it on the slick spot in three or our places. Then I throw the stick/straw into the water so the oil will spread out leaving a trail on the surface. It doesn't initiate a territorial response. I usually set a foothold for a front foot catch. I don't use 330s, because most of the beavers I use this on are already educated. This is one of those tricks my pappy taught me. Exactly! I have one of his books where he uses it when beaver shy away from other scents, especially those that are castor-based. I had taken 4 beaver out of a nuisance job a while back, 3 kits and a larger male. The female would shy away from all my sets. Then, I remembered reading about your dad mentioning using sac oil. I used it with his poplar stump set. I had her the next day. I got a lot of good ideas from that booklet.
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: Mitch L]
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04/21/23 08:17 AM
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I watched a dude from iowa do a demo on beaver and he cut his sac oil with mineral oil I think. Squirted it out of bottle using sneaky sets. Worked well for him!
Wonder what kinda ratio? If you only need a few drops 1 set of sacs cut 50/50 should make a bunch of sets.
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: Kevin Stake]
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04/21/23 01:39 PM
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Will sac oil keep in a fridge to use the next year? If the oil is clean, it should keep for long periods of time without even being refrigerated. I have a bottle of it that I have had in my fish cleaning house for almost 20 years with no refrigeration and it still seems to work for me. It smells pretty original, so it still gets used on some of my sets. Beaver get caught so it must be OK.
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: KOSOI]
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04/21/23 01:40 PM
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Good to see you on here Kosoi!
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
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04/21/23 02:17 PM
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^^^Just putting my time in...waiting for next beaver season to start. Farming is not as much fun.
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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04/21/23 02:50 PM
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Grow weed. More fun than potatos.
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
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04/21/23 05:14 PM
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Gonna start here on monday.. Gotta hit Timmins for a couple days to sell some fur first.
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
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04/21/23 08:40 PM
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Oil is killer on spooky beaver so works just fine on run of the mill beaver. I have found that otter are attracted to it also so keep that in mind as well. After milking the sac's of oil, use the empty shells at your predator sets, you can thank me later.
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: Shakeyjake]
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04/21/23 08:58 PM
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I watched a dude from iowa do a demo on beaver and he cut his sac oil with mineral oil I think. Squirted it out of bottle using sneaky sets. Worked well for him!
Wonder what kinda ratio? If you only need a few drops 1 set of sacs cut 50/50 should make a bunch of sets. I want to say 4 parts mineral oil to 1 part sac oil. !00%not sure on that, He may have said he cut it so that he could still smell the sac.
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