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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: willvalley]
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 04/19/23 07:28 AM
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Don Nichols did a demo I watched once. He said the only lure he used was sack oil. Castor was worth to much. He also said the same thing Paul says about the response. Don also said if you missed in one set they did not seem to be leary fo the sack oil in another set.  Years back I targeted nutria. I had one basic set when first setting up. It was a pocket set with a fairly deep step down made high on steep banks so it stayed active in rising waters. Every set got tail oil. I used a no2 trap. Caught a bunch of beaver with the nutes and no need for downers as it is pretty hard for a beaver to chew out of a trap that small.  Ted So, you caught beaver on BTO?  
 
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: 330-Trapper]
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 04/19/23 09:13 AM
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I use it very lightly in my castor lure recipe 
  And stand alone attractant on tough final beaver
  Usually sac oil from one of their own  colony. I have observed that younger beaver in the family group do not necessarily work the castor sets the way the older beaver do.  I see this in ponds quite a bit but it could be anywhere.  I always keep the oil sacs of the big female and have used a single drop per set to catch those pesky holdouts that would not work the plain castor sets.  The explanation that sac oil does not elicit a territorial response make sense.  It is as if the younger beaver (a year old or less) are not conditioned to the territorial response yet but they will sure check out the sac oil.  
 
  
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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 04/19/23 09:21 AM
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That it is attractive to the kits would be a downside for me.  I'm always trying to avoid catching the little guys. 
 
  
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: Ole]
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 04/19/23 09:24 AM
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Have used sac oil for years and can't tell a difference in effectiveness from store bought lures.  Use it year round. Yep, works great for also.  I have found no difference also.  
 
  
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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 04/19/23 09:54 AM
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That it is attractive to the kits would be a downside for me.  I'm always trying to avoid catching the little guys. That is the difference in fur trapping versus damage control.  The last one is the one I am after!  
 
  
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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 04/19/23 08:23 PM
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Thanks for all the responses.  I'm going to do some experimentation next season and see what happens. 
 
  
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: Paul Dobbins]
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 04/20/23 11:59 AM
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It works great!  I use it on those sharp beavers that have an aversion to lures.  It can be used all season long too. It doesn't take much either.  I like to make a small slick spot on the bank and using a pine needle, or other small twig, I dip it in the oil and only dab it on the slick spot in three or our places.  Then I throw the stick/straw into the water so the oil will spread out leaving a trail on the surface. It doesn't initiate a territorial response.  I usually set a foothold for a front foot catch.  I don't use 330s, because most of the beavers I use this on are already educated. This is one of those tricks my pappy taught me. Exactly! I have one of his books where he uses it when beaver shy away from other scents, especially those that are castor-based.  I had taken 4 beaver out of a nuisance job a while back, 3 kits and a larger male. The female would shy away from all my sets. Then, I remembered reading about your dad mentioning  using sac oil. I used it with his poplar stump set. I had her the next day. I got a lot of good ideas from that booklet.  
 
  
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: Mitch L]
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 04/21/23 07:17 AM
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I watched a dude from iowa do a demo on beaver and he cut his sac oil with mineral oil I think. Squirted it out of bottle using sneaky sets. Worked well for him!
  Wonder what kinda ratio? If you only need a few drops 1 set of sacs cut 50/50 should make a bunch of sets.  
 
  
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: Kevin  Stake]
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 04/21/23 12:39 PM
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Will sac oil keep in a fridge to use the next year?  If the oil is clean, it should keep for long periods of time without even being refrigerated. I have a bottle of it that I have had in my fish cleaning house for almost 20 years with no refrigeration and it still seems to work for me. It smells pretty original, so it still gets used on some of my sets. Beaver get caught so it must be OK.  
 
  
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: KOSOI]
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 04/21/23 12:40 PM
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Good to see you on here Kosoi!  
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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 04/21/23 01:17 PM
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^^^Just putting my time in...waiting for next beaver season to start.  Farming is not as much fun. 
 
  
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Re: Trapping beaver with sac oil
[Re: beaverpeeler]
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 04/21/23 01:50 PM
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Grow weed. More fun than potatos.
  Dont smoke any weed during trapping season-it will turn you into a lazy lump. 
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