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Re: Coyote Lures [Re: canebrake] #7890785
06/22/23 10:00 PM
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Wayne Derrick's lures has helped me a bunch.

Re: Coyote Lures [Re: canebrake] #7890927
06/23/23 05:13 AM
06/23/23 05:13 AM
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Northern Mn
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Northern Mn
So many good one's out there,I've had very good response with Tainted Love,Bad Company Weiser's,Punisher Keg Creek,GH 2 Fox Hollow,C-50,Crow Creek Corr's,Old 3 Toes John G, Bounty Hunter,Voo Doo Fox Hollow and Pro's choice Carman's to name a few. Forgot to mention Lucero's,Lennon's ,Caven's and June's.

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Re: Coyote Lures [Re: canebrake] #7891042
06/23/23 07:36 AM
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Has anyone else found a much increased success rate when only carrying a couple lures/baits? I used to carry around a whole bucket of lures and baits, noticed I do much better now that I have standardized my gear and my lures. I think we give coyotes a little too much credit thinking it takes 10 or 12 different lures in the bag to catch them. Heck, 75% of the time I'm not even using lure now


Gotta live up to the nickname...
Re: Coyote Lures [Re: canebrake] #7891045
06/23/23 07:41 AM
06/23/23 07:41 AM
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With due respect I got to say Rick my experience is totally opposite than yours as far as so many good ones. And that's based off testing and watching coyotes reactions and comparing notes with others that do the same.

Re: Coyote Lures [Re: canebrake] #7891076
06/23/23 08:36 AM
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With all the testing done it seems y’all would put out what works and what doesn’t, lol. Then again what I’ve found is something may work in your area and not 20 miles away. Could be the difference in trappers and applications.
I’ve had success with NightTrain and so has my son in two different areas. Now that summer has come, we’ve had success with a totally different lure, Jameson’s Canines Choice.
Gusto up high or thrown in a dirt hole is always on the list.
We don’t live in a high coyote area. Or we run what we have off, lol.
We’re mainly set for coyotes and catch everything else. Occasionally set for Bobcats. And again, Lucero’s lures during the colder months and Jameson’s when it warms. We don’t have a “winter” here.

Re: Coyote Lures [Re: Yes sir] #7891078
06/23/23 08:39 AM
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Seldom---- wealth of info there. How do I find your you tube channel and what lures would you use If you were targeting coyotes again. I have had good results with Luceros lures and Carmen's canine call it was yellow label

Re: Coyote Lures [Re: canebrake] #7891086
06/23/23 08:52 AM
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It'll be hard to get guys to tell you what doesn't work on an open forum. Nobody likes putting guys down unless they are wronged.


Gotta live up to the nickname...
Re: Coyote Lures [Re: coondagger2] #7891104
06/23/23 09:19 AM
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That's right. Sorry didn't mean to put anyone in a bad spot. My apologies seems like my experience has been lure and or bait results are site,environment /climate ,past history in the area AND application method/volume etc. along with recipe involved.

Re: Coyote Lures [Re: canebrake] #7891119
06/23/23 09:51 AM
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Here's a few reasons I normally don't post what I find as very attractive to coyotes and what isn't.
First I don't want to run another maker down
Second I regular see lures/ baits that aren't that good being recommended and it's not my intent to offend anyone
Third I want people to take the initiative to test themselves, they will learn way more this way and have more confidence in there own findings
And fourth I'm moving towards selling my own products and don't want to come across as bias and trying to push my stuff by running down others

I've posted positive about lures or baits that caught coyotes for me when I first started that I thought were good but with more experience and testing giving me a better idea what a good reaction I couldn't recommend them anymore.
Good is a relative term based off ones opinion what good should be
I've compared notes with good trappers across the country about lures/baits and have sent my stuff all over the country for testing and as a whole I dont see a huge difference on the regional thing. Some areas coyotes are easy to catch and a lesser attraction will catch better but a better lure/bait will generally still out produce it. Same thing with time of year, spring and summer coyotes are generally less aggressive/less interested but a better attractor will still out perform others despite the season. In other words my finding is the best is still the best no matter what time of season it is.
These are general theories based on what I see and there are always a few exceptions when it comes to coyotes.

Ultimately one should always pay attention to what the coyotes tell you over what anyone says, they aren't bias and won't lie to you.

Remember stone tools "worked" for thousands of years but there's a difference between "works" and " works good".


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Re: Coyote Lures [Re: canebrake] #7891144
06/23/23 10:20 AM
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Guess I need to find a place with an abundance of coyotes and get to testing. Then again, they’d want to to trap for free, lol.

Re: Coyote Lures [Re: ] #7891213
06/23/23 11:47 AM
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Originally Posted by Seldom
Originally Posted by ks wolfer
Seldom---- wealth of info there. How do I find your you tube channel and what lures would you use If you were targeting coyotes again. I have had good results with Luceros lures and Carmen's canine call it was yellow label

Just type SeldomFales in Youtube and you'll find it.
I listed the very best lures and baits I've used. Something I would never do when I was trapping coyote. I'm trapping beaver now so I'm passing my experience and information on hoping I can help some folks who are having difficulty.

Luceros book is a very good read and in it you'll find his version of my Disco Dirthole Set and I will tell you he's an observer & thinker!


Seldom,

Do your YouTube videos explain how you go about doing your tests? That's where I'm struggling. Are you doing mock sets or just smearing lure somewhere? Just 1 lure or multiple in the area to see if animals prefer one over the other?

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Re: Coyote Lures [Re: ] #7891253
06/23/23 12:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Seldom
I explained my process in several videos but I can’t remember if I did in the majority. Here is my testing process- Once you’ve decided on a test location I make the test site itself by drilling a 1” diameter hole 8” deep straight down and I don’t remove any dirt, just down & out. I use a dinner knife as the applicator and stick close to 3/4 of a tsp down the hole as far as the knife will reach.. I do the same thing with baits except I use about 1/2 Tb down the hole.

I’ve found that it’s extremely important not to make any changes to whatever your process is, you want all aspects of each test as identical as possible. The reduction of variables is of most importance! I’m not making a trap set, I’m testing the attractiveness of a scent so I don’t want ANY VISUAL variables that can & will skew the results. I don’t brush out my tracks, I choose a site for the hole, walk directly to it, do my thing, and walk away which does not mean that I necessarily walk by, that has to do with the direction I’m going to next. I don’t wear special footwear but I do use gloves.

I have several times tested as many as 3 lures at one location and made the holes about 10’ apart.


Thank you very much.

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Re: Coyote Lures [Re: canebrake] #7891328
06/23/23 03:01 PM
06/23/23 03:01 PM
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Northern Mn
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To comment on yes sir,I don't use all these lures in the same year.It's what the coyotes like here in northern Mn,each year I normally run 6-8 lures and don't use year after year.I believe you can burn out a good lure using it too often,that's my opinion ,just like I think biden is the devil him self and wish him all that he deserves burn in h--- you worthless @#$$@#$#%.

Re: Coyote Lures [Re: canebrake] #7891331
06/23/23 03:09 PM
06/23/23 03:09 PM
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O'Gorman's lures always did well for me here. All the other farm boys used Hawbaker's because their dad's did. I think the coyotes here never smelled O'Gorman's until I used it so I did real well with it. LDC, Plenty Coyotes, Big Horns Medicine- they really dig for this one.
I have been trying some from Wayne Derrick the last few years. G-Man and 1080. I tried 1080 on some pipe dream sets and it worked well for that. I asked Wayne what it smelled like '' Dead Stuff'' was his answer. It does.
Carman Triple Threat is an awesome late coon lure for dirtholes.
June's Fox Frenzy works well here for Fox and Coyotes.
Ed Schnieder X-Factor great lure too

I have not have very many that do not work but after a couple years it pays to switch. Don't tell the others guys what you are switching to either. I find there is a lack of interest if I stick to the same lure year after year. It also pays to use a lure holder and take your lure away at the end of the season so they aren't smelling it all next spring. I used to use those old metal band aid boxes with holes poked in the lid. Now I use a small jelly jar or Altiod mint box. This way it doesn't get all over your set. And it keeps the smell where you want it. When I leave the area I take this with me the best I can. I don't do this with gland lure- only things like Big Horns Medicine or Triple Threat.


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Re: Coyote Lures [Re: canebrake] #7891403
06/23/23 04:49 PM
06/23/23 04:49 PM
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yes sir that's great if you have good lure's ,your not allowd to promote your self on here.I hope it works out for you,but rules are rules.

Re: Coyote Lures [Re: canebrake] #7891430
06/23/23 05:35 PM
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Rick since your in a helpful mood could you point what I said that you think is breaking any rules. Im pretty simple but I dont see me saying I've sent lure out for testing or saying I may start selling lures as breaking the rules. Heck Bob post pics of his products regularly and Paul talks about his business. I see it mostly in same light as my posts, just some information and background to help others. If it's mostly just cause I disagreed with you or you don't like me just pm me. I'm a big boy I can handle it.

Is there a opening for a moderator position I missed.

I'd even pm u my phone number if you want to discuss and compare our findings. I love talking coyotes and lures and baits. Maybe coordinate identical tests at the same time and compare notes?

Paul if u feel the same way as Rick just pm

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Re: Coyote Lures [Re: canebrake] #7891470
06/23/23 06:45 PM
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Yes sir, when you decide to sell, shoot me a PM. I’m narrowing my selection down yearly. I used to carry a bag full, now I’m down to the lures that work.

Re: Coyote Lures [Re: Wanna Be] #7891485
06/23/23 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
Yes sir, when you decide to sell, shoot me a PM. I’m narrowing my selection down yearly. I used to carry a bag full, now I’m down to the lures that work.

WB ,I am with you. I am willing to try some out on in my area.

Re: Coyote Lures [Re: canebrake] #7891497
06/23/23 07:32 PM
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@Yes sir and @Seldom when you're running cameras, what models are you running? I have 2 Browning BTC-8A that I like, but they're about impossible to find.

Re: Coyote Lures [Re: canebrake] #7891620
06/23/23 10:03 PM
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I believe it's a newer version than what u guys have. I got 4 and was pretty happy with them but still felt they were missing some of the coyotes. This late winter I hung one over some gland stuff I was testing and by the sign, which was stuff I should have seen on camera such as digging and kick backs,I felt like it missed more than half the action. Which gets me frustrated pretty easy. I've seen them miss deer once in awhile while I'm on the stand. Haven't determined if it just one of the cameras or all of them. I need to pay closer attention to which one I'm using and where.

I'll say I still do 90% of my testing off camera for several reasons. Shear number of test sets and convenience are the biggest two. Everything down a dirthole and I judge it by the amount of digging I get. Enough sets and I feel comfortable in my interpretation of their reaction and probably 90% of my testing is comparative testing side by side so I'm just seeing which is better.

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