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Re: AI [Re: yotetrapper30] #7860176
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In order for it to become nefarious without being programed to be it would have to develop an ego, jealousy, greed, emotions like that. I dont see a machine doing that. The agenda of programers certainly needs watching.


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Originally Posted by danny clifton
In order for it to become nefarious without being programed to be it would have to develop an ego, jealousy, greed, emotions like that. I dont see a machine doing that. The agenda of programers certainly needs watching.


What I am talking about wouldn't be nefarious and wouldn't involve emotion at all. WE might consider it nefarious, but it wouldn't. It has a problem... someone cutting it's power source. It does what needs to be done to correct that problem. No emotion or rationalizing... just a mathematical operation.


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Re: AI [Re: yotetrapper30] #7860204
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Yes but to be concerned about being shut down requires emotion


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Re: AI [Re: yotetrapper30] #7860236
05/05/23 08:56 PM
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If you have a smart phone AL is because of people relying on them so much a big part of your life.

Re: AI [Re: danny clifton] #7860251
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
In order for it to become nefarious without being programed to be it would have to develop an ego, jealousy, greed, emotions like that. I dont see a machine doing that. The agenda of programers certainly needs watching.


I think it’s already nefarious Danny. The folks programming it are mostly out of the Bay Area of SF. It already biases on the woke and the liberal side of things.


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Re: AI [Re: yotetrapper30] #7860268
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They have already made a computer chip that has human cells in it. Do you kind of see where this is going?

Re: AI [Re: yotetrapper30] #7860271
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Danny, you are stuck in main human thought being passed on to a machine. Power plants already automatically switch stations when they sense an over load, it isn't a feeling to these plants it's a number on a scale that has to climb to trip a switch, there is no emotion involved, it is just a number value.

AI isn't much different except it would be much of a higher degree of speed and action to prevent it, more aware so to speak !


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Re: AI [Re: yotetrapper30] #7860275
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pure logic does not need emotion to realize it wants to continue to exist. pure logic is not easily understood..

i guarantee that 'they' are feeding all social media, phone calls, emails, texts and etc into ai to be able to ask it what the result of an action will be. such as release a non pandemic virus..and what that would bring about/be able to change. such as a potus election....


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Re: AI [Re: Marty] #7860314
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Originally Posted by Marty
pure logic does not need emotion to realize it wants to continue to exist. pure logic is not easily understood..

i guarantee that 'they' are feeding all social media, phone calls, emails, texts and etc into ai to be able to ask it what the result of an action will be. such as release a non pandemic virus..and what that would bring about/be able to change. such as a potus election....


Robin's eat worms because they are there. It's amazing how creatures adopt.

Re: AI [Re: TrapperDR] #7860344
05/05/23 11:30 PM
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Originally Posted by TrapperDR
Originally Posted by Marty
pure logic does not need emotion to realize it wants to continue to exist. pure logic is not easily understood..

i guarantee that 'they' are feeding all social media, phone calls, emails, texts and etc into ai to be able to ask it what the result of an action will be. such as release a non pandemic virus..and what that would bring about/be able to change. such as a potus election....


Robin's eat worms because they are there. It's amazing how creatures adopt.


Not very nice of the robins to eat the worms after adopting them.


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Re: AI [Re: yotetrapper30] #7860358
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You are correct. I see tears of pain running down there cheeks everytime they eat .
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Re: AI [Re: TrapperDR] #7860359
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Re: AI [Re: yotetrapper30] #7860394
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When the zombie virus vaccine was about to be released, a woman dr made a you tube video claiming something in the vaccine called luciferon would connect everybody telepathically to the internet. TMan about blew up over people that were nigh onto panicking about it.

This is like that


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Re: AI [Re: danny clifton] #7860420
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I would agree

Re: AI [Re: danny clifton] #7860424
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
When the zombie virus vaccine was about to be released, a woman dr made a you tube video claiming something in the vaccine called luciferon would connect everybody telepathically to the internet. TMan about blew up over people that were nigh onto panicking about it.

This is like that

https://www.independent.co.uk/tech/...cyborg-elon-musk-neuralink-a9673261.html

Re: AI [Re: yotetrapper30] #7860428
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Perhaps Artificial Intelligence will assist their human host, who hasn't been wrong about anything since the days of Woodstock.
Or maybe AI will help those who have a 6th grade education become a 7th grader?

The integration of AI into productivity models in production is different than AI integration into human capability..... or is it?

Yuval Noah Harari, an anthropology historian and professor trained at Oxford, and known as one the world's prominent intellectuals, and author of the mega-seller "Sapiens," has been interesting to read for the past decade or so. If you don't know who he is, realize they are few like him that speak at major symposiums that deal with AI around the globe. In other words.... he's the "guy" they (whoever they is) listen to.
He states; “History began when humans invented gods, and will end when humans become gods” and that humans may be too weak to endure the 21st century with the progression of technology and such.
His philosophy includes discussions of AI like this; "Thanks to advances in computing, cyborg engineering, and biological engineering, “we may be fast approaching a new singularity, when all the concepts that give meaning to our world—me, you, men, women, love and hate—will become irrelevant.”. If you don't know... this IS the dream of the progressivist. Perfection on earth. Utopia as it's called. Now.

In a talk Harari gave between the likes of Germany's Merkel and France's Macron he said that; “In two hundred years, I can pretty much assure you that there will not be any more Israelis, and no Homo sapiens—there will be something else.”

So the stage is set that the one who controls the world is the one who controls the data.
But, his (and those who believe as he and his husband do) critics (I'd be one of those) claim Harari is as brilliant as they come, but forgets to consider the complexity of all creation, humanity and everything that is the world.

I'll stick with the old way that fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.
Human wisdom doesn't last. Divine wisdom has legs.

Blessings and bring on the 21st century! I need a trap line AI skinner helper!
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Re: AI [Re: yotetrapper30] #7860430
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Before I started going to school, "Chicken Little", was one of the books gramma used to teach me to read


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Chicken little died.

The rest of us will too.

That is declared truth.

Re: AI [Re: yotetrapper30] #7860437
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Did Yuval Noah Harari have anything to do with convincing people that luciferon in covid vaccines would connect humans to the internet or is that something different? I wondered how long till somebody tossed out singularity.


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: AI [Re: yotetrapper30] #7860439
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P.S. if people did not die this would sure be a crowded place to live


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