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Re: Police Fired on J6 attendees [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7868077
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Hard to imagine why so many people would be mad


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Re: Police Fired on J6 attendees [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7868088
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Understood, Calvin. But until someone in a position such as yourself and countless other professionals in the line of work mentioned take a stand with the whole force UNITED, these corrupt DAs and other bureaucrats in power will continue to use you as pawns in their war against our nations own citizens. Sometime soon Im afraid we will all have to choose a side, and the way citizens have been treated by many of our police forces, you will have a tough time convincing many of us to trust in our police officers. Sad, but true. If our police want to regain any semblance of trust, they had better get to rooting out the corruption within their ranks & soon. I have immediate family in the forces, they keep me informed with the strife they are facing from within. Eventually it will come down to you are either with us or against us, that is my greatest concern. I hope to never see that, but would not be surprised the way the world is changing.


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Re: Police Fired on J6 attendees [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7868192
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Re: Police Fired on J6 attendees [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7868216
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Calvin,
Based on what I saw of the Ashli Babbitt shooting, and from the viewpoint of 26 years in LE, I don't see that as a justifiable use of deadly force.

Your statement that "sometimes you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet" makes me wonder that, if you are a police officer, then you might be in the wrong line of work.


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Re: Police Fired on J6 attendees [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7868224
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Over the years there have been many threads on Tman about police shootings and arrests. Many that post on here have mostly sided more with the perpetrator/arrested. Yet, on this thread, I see some of these same folks stating the Ashli Babbitt shoot was OK. What makes that incident OK? Is it because it was at the US Capital? What gives?


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Re: Police Fired on J6 attendees [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7868259
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I am mostly a lurker but the killing of Ashie Bobbitt was a hate crime in my opinion. The piece of crap cop crying on TV made me think he was crying his way out. He should be prosecuted just like the cops that killed Floyd. Two tiers of justice. It's time to hoist the Black flag.

Re: Police Fired on J6 attendees [Re: TC1] #7868286
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Originally Posted by TC1
Understood, Calvin. But until someone in a position such as yourself and countless other professionals in the line of work mentioned take a stand with the whole force UNITED, these corrupt DAs and other bureaucrats in power will continue to use you as pawns in their war against our nations own citizens. Sometime soon Im afraid we will all have to choose a side, and the way citizens have been treated by many of our police forces, you will have a tough time convincing many of us to trust in our police officers. Sad, but true. If our police want to regain any semblance of trust, they had better get to rooting out the corruption within their ranks & soon. I have immediate family in the forces, they keep me informed with the strife they are facing from within. Eventually it will come down to you are either with us or against us, that is my greatest concern. I hope to never see that, but would not be surprised the way the world is changing.


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Re: Police Fired on J6 attendees [Re: mskrtman] #7868293
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Originally Posted by mskrtman
If a crowd came to your house screaming they wanted to hang some of the people inside then broke a window and came in would you shoot?

No trained officer would. Or I guess I should say should, since one obviously chose to disergard his training and shot an unarmed person.

Re: Police Fired on J6 attendees [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7868307
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Over the years there have been many threads on Tman about police shootings and arrests. Many that post on here have mostly sided more with the perpetrator/arrested. Yet, on this thread, I see some of these same folks stating the Ashli Babbitt shoot was OK. What makes that incident OK? Is it because it was at the US Capital? What gives?

Whether it was justified or not,It worked.
It brought an immediate end to the attack.
That is surprising to me since most fighting forces will fight harder when fired upon.

Last edited by Boco; 05/19/23 08:12 PM.

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Re: Police Fired on J6 attendees [Re: Boco] #7868343
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Originally Posted by Boco
Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Over the years there have been many threads on Tman about police shootings and arrests. Many that post on here have mostly sided more with the perpetrator/arrested. Yet, on this thread, I see some of these same folks stating the Ashli Babbitt shoot was OK. What makes that incident OK? Is it because it was at the US Capital? What gives?

Whether it was justified or not,It worked.
It brought an immediate end to the attack.
That is surprising to me since most fighting forces will fight harder when fired upon.

Here in America, that is NOT how LE is supposed to gain control of a situation.

Just shoot an unarmed protester and hope the others stop? I guess she was that egg Calvin said needed to be broken for that omelet. Just DAM!


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Re: Police Fired on J6 attendees [Re: Boco] #7868429
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Originally Posted by Boco
Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Over the years there have been many threads on Tman about police shootings and arrests. Many that post on here have mostly sided more with the perpetrator/arrested. Yet, on this thread, I see some of these same folks stating the Ashli Babbitt shoot was OK. What makes that incident OK? Is it because it was at the US Capital? What gives?

Whether it was justified or not,It worked.
It brought an immediate end to the attack.
That is surprising to me since most fighting forces will fight harder when fired upon.


Actually it did not immediately end. Maybe at that location attempts to enter that door ceased but it was another hour or so before the building was cleared.

Re: Police Fired on J6 attendees [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7868432
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And it was not an attack. Unauthorized entry at most and you usually go to jail for shooting folks who commit simple trespass.

Re: Police Fired on J6 attendees [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7868445
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Black cop kills an unarmed woman !
No news here !


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Re: Police Fired on J6 attendees [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7868486
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step one to bringing back confidence in LE is stop this qualified immunity nonsense.

step two would be putting the same effort into catching thieves they put into traffic enforcement and drug interdiction


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Re: Police Fired on J6 attendees [Re: Boco] #7868496
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Originally Posted by Boco
Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Over the years there have been many threads on Tman about police shootings and arrests. Many that post on here have mostly sided more with the perpetrator/arrested. Yet, on this thread, I see some of these same folks stating the Ashli Babbitt shoot was OK. What makes that incident OK? Is it because it was at the US Capital? What gives?

Whether it was justified or not,It worked.
It brought an immediate end to the attack.
That is surprising to me since most fighting forces will fight harder when fired upon.

Shoot one unarmed person and the rest of the unarmed people tend to not want to get shot too.

Re: Police Fired on J6 attendees [Re: danny clifton] #7868505
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
step one to bringing back confidence in LE is stop this qualified immunity nonsense.

step two would be putting the same effort into catching thieves they put into traffic enforcement and drug interdiction


Dont think they can get it back.


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Re: Police Fired on J6 attendees [Re: danny clifton] #7868535
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
step one to bringing back confidence in LE is stop this qualified immunity nonsense.

step two would be putting the same effort into catching thieves they put into traffic enforcement and drug interdiction

They've pretty well eliminated qualified immunity in Minnesota for LEOs, in case you want to check out a case study on how that works out. Oh and MN is on its way to legalize about anything you want to put in your body. With the exception of a fetus, perhaps


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