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Re: how many are in stand your ground states? [Re: west river rogue] #7880053
06/07/23 09:55 PM
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here in ks you can even defend property to the point thats reasonable. i think it was written that way so a jury would decide in lethal force over property.

no requirement to back down to protect anyone. especially not in your home


Those who would give up essential liberty, to purchase a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety. Benjamin Franklin (1706-1790)
Re: how many are in stand your ground states? [Re: west river rogue] #7880075
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“Live Free or Die “ ....nuff sed..


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Re: how many are in stand your ground states? [Re: west river rogue] #7880094
06/07/23 11:05 PM
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I do not need a law telling me it is okay to fight for the lives of my family and myself.

Re: how many are in stand your ground states? [Re: west river rogue] #7880102
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I stand my ground anywhere


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Re: how many are in stand your ground states? [Re: west river rogue] #7880131
06/08/23 01:25 AM
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Susan Lorincz just found out that the "Castle Doctrine" and "Stand Your Ground" don't apply if your community, in this case Ocala, Florida, is trying to avoid being looted and burnt to the ground.

Keith

Re: how many are in stand your ground states? [Re: west river rogue] #7880207
06/08/23 07:16 AM
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Kentucky has castle doctrine, stand your ground, no permit needed to carry concealed & can own all the class 3 stuff.


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Re: how many are in stand your ground states? [Re: ky_coyote_hunter] #7880208
06/08/23 07:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
Kentucky has castle doctrine, stand your ground, no permit needed to carry concealed & can own all the class 3 stuff.


Same here

Re: how many are in stand your ground states? [Re: west river rogue] #7880241
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I have insurance, there are tons of lowlife lawyers who will sue the shoes off you. You can get away with shooting someone if you do it in Sante Fe on a movie set! I have been told at a concealed carry class to retreat even in your own home, so I bought insurance!

Re: how many are in stand your ground states? [Re: west river rogue] #7880305
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I think it's still on the books here I know walker put it on.

Re: how many are in stand your ground states? [Re: Mando] #7880310
06/08/23 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Mando
Better have insurance. It'll still cost a lot to prove yourself innocent.


Or a tractor with a front loader / backhoe to make holes in the ground.


I hate paperwork


Let's go Brandon

"Shall not comply" with morons who don't understand "shall not infringe."
Re: how many are in stand your ground states? [Re: west river rogue] #7880311
06/08/23 10:27 AM
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Here in MN, it's best to avoid shooting someone regardless of the circumstances because liberal MN is notorious for letting the guilty go unpunished and the innocent get punished.


We are told not to judge all Muslims by the actions of a few lunatics, but are told to judge all gunowners by the actions of a few.
Re: how many are in stand your ground states? [Re: west river rogue] #7880342
06/08/23 11:08 AM
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I'd rather be judged by 12 than carried to the grave by 6.

Ayoob Massad (sp?) has a super video on YouTube (Wilson Combat) regarding post self defense shooting interviews with the police. His wisdom could keep you out of court if you ever have to put some never do weller.


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Re: how many are in stand your ground states? [Re: west river rogue] #7880345
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“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.”
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Re: how many are in stand your ground states? [Re: west river rogue] #7880354
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I know we've had the castle doctrine for years. I remember many years ago here, a guy shooting another off his porch...through the screen door and nothing happened to him.

Our stand your ground is newer tho and I can't recall anyone using it, so who knows how good it is?

Re: how many are in stand your ground states? [Re: west river rogue] #7880361
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Originally Posted by west river rogue
Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
Kentucky has castle doctrine, stand your ground, no permit needed to carry concealed & can own all the class 3 stuff.


Same here

Yeah, Ohio has it right & I salute them on their freedom.


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Re: how many are in stand your ground states? [Re: west river rogue] #7880365
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Leftlane. Thats good stuff ! I share a range with = County Task Force guys. But would NEVER give a statement without my lawyer present no matter what

Re: how many are in stand your ground states? [Re: west river rogue] #7880369
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Guess it’s all in where you live in your State. I’d deal with the Sheriff if I had to defend myself and would probably get a steak dinner afterwards.

Re: how many are in stand your ground states? [Re: Tom Fisher] #7880372
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Originally Posted by Tom Fisher
I have insurance, there are tons of lowlife lawyers who will sue the shoes off you. You can get away with shooting someone if you do it in Sante Fe on a movie set! I have been told at a concealed carry class to retreat even in your own home, so I bought insurance!


If I am home, the scumbag will be looking down the barrel of a gun. No retreat.

Re: how many are in stand your ground states? [Re: steeltraps] #7880375
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Originally Posted by steeltraps
Leftlane. Thats good stuff ! I share a range with = County Task Force guys. But would NEVER give a statement without my lawyer present no matter what



I do understand that. A buddy of mine joined one of those pre-paid defense clubs for a potential defensive shooter. One of their lawyers suggested the shooter ask for an ambulance (any questions from that point would basically be inadmissible.)

I thought the idea had merit. You could basically advise Leo's of the things went over in the video while putting off further questions until your lawyer met you at the ER.


“What’s good for me may not be good for the weak minded.”
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Re: how many are in stand your ground states? [Re: Leftlane] #7880379
06/08/23 11:38 AM
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Leftlane. So LEOs on here want like me saying this. BUT. When a officer is involved in a fatal shooting. Most of the time. The FOP or city or county of that officer will INSIST that that officer take 24 to 48 hrs to make a official statement. Why is that a union thing? I have been told it lets the officer calm down and make a better statement ? WHY would the victim not want to do the same???

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