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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7881629
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Number 1. Biden is not mentioned in the indictment. Number 2. Did Pence or Biden take all these papers home with them from their office at the White House when they left after being replaced as VP?


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I am shocked no investigation into Biden bringing home documents. A vice president cant. He should of been the first indicted.

Re: Consequences for Trumped Up [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7881632
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The real question is besides the “cherry picked” documents what else was he retaining. Could it be information that we see happening from the White House?


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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7881633
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I don't think some of y'all fully realize what has happened.

We have been conquered and taken over by operatives from within our own "government". The culmination of a century long effort by the progressives.

We are well past the moment of discussion or "democratic debate". We must take back our birthright freedom or die trying.

Trump is but just one effort at that. And looking more and more like a suicide mission. But I wish him well and he has my backing to whatever end he may meet. And if that is his, or my, end may he take some of them with him.


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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7881634
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Did only Blane and I read the indictment?


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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7881636
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I read the indictment. My glasses are clear also!


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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7881639
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Also being reported, Trump is the FIRST president that the documents were to be stored in his residence which includes the Secret Service protection where other Presidents documents are stored in ann old abandoned store as 1 example!


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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up [Re: Oh Snap] #7881640
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Originally Posted by Oh Snap
I read the indictment. My glasses are clear also!


Is this an accurate summary of what happened?

So, apparently NARA asked Trump to give them the presidential records he took to Mira-lago so they can review and archive as per law as they are supposed to do. One year later he sent them some of these documents. They found classified documents in these which is normal. The gubmint knew he had more presidential records and got a court order just for Trump to turn over any Classified documents ( not all the paperwork he was supposed to send to NARA) he still had. He had a lawyer go through about half the boxes they knew he had and sent them more classified material they found, telling the gubmint that was it. The gubmint knew he still had more boxes he didn't go through, so they get a search warrant and get the rest of the classified material.


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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up [Re: Oh Snap] #7881642
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Originally Posted by Oh Snap
The real question is besides the “cherry picked” documents what else was he retaining. Could it be information that we see happening from the White House?



According to Kash Patel, who was there, Trump declassified all the stuff related to the Russian collusion hoax, things that implicated Obama and Hillary, and THAT is what this is all.about.

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Originally Posted by DaveP
Originally Posted by Oh Snap
The real question is besides the “cherry picked” documents what else was he retaining. Could it be information that we see happening from the White House?



According to Kash Patel, who was there, Trump declassified all the stuff related to the Russian collusion hoax, things that implicated Obama and Hillary, and THAT is what this is all.about.


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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up [Re: Dirt] #7881655
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Originally Posted by Dirt
Originally Posted by Oh Snap
I read the indictment. My glasses are clear also!


Is this an accurate summary of what happened?

So, apparently NARA asked Trump to give them the presidential records he took to Mira-lago so they can review and archive as per law as they are supposed to do. One year later he sent them some of these documents. They found classified documents in these which is normal. The gubmint knew he had more presidential records and got a court order just for Trump to turn over any Classified documents ( not all the paperwork he was supposed to send to NARA) he still had. He had a lawyer go through about half the boxes they knew he had and sent them more classified material they found, telling the gubmint that was it. The gubmint knew he still had more boxes he didn't go through, so they get a search warrant and get the rest of the classified material.


You're missing the fact that the precedent for Presidents is they can, and have always, kept documents. But there's a different standard for Trump that you can't deny no matter what the liberal swamp wrote in that indictment.

Heck, Biden, Pence and Hillary took documents and they weren't even President!

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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7881663
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I asked a question not for additional facts.


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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7881668
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Do you know how the national archives know said documents even exist ?

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Originally Posted by hippie
Do you know how the national archives know said documents even exist ?

Probably because they authorized Trump to take them.

Re: Consequences for Trumped Up [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7881676
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All you Trump bashers need to wake up, stop sniffing glue and smoking weed.
Open up your mind a bit with serious intention.
Do you think that there is a single candidate running for the Republican nomination which the enemy of the state will not use the Patriot Act to spy on and indict them as soon as they look like they will win the nomination? The same playbook they used on Trump way before he was elected?
DeSantis hates gays, trans, drag queens, black history, Mickey Mouse, and wants all women who accidentally got pregnant to die from backroom hanger abortions.
Tim Scott is the "Black face" of the Republican Party.
Nikki Haley, as a woman, is past her prime. "Look it up on google" (Don Lemon, CNN).
Chris Christie killed people who couldn't be transported by ambulances on purpose by closing a highway as publicity stunt.
Need I go on?
Y'all can go ahead and play checkers while the enemy of the state kills what's left of this country by playing chess.

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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7881680
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TRUMP WAS SET UP!

Prior to running for president he supported all the people that are NOW after him. Being a builder/contractor he was only popular because of his wealth. Being outspoken brings retaliation from people that envy his position in life. Keeping and building wealth brings scrutiny and has endured plenty. Politics is over the top though.

And now indicted! Interesting it comes on the day the evidence that the current person in the Whitehouse received 10 million dollars along with his son to get a prosecutor fired in a foreign country!


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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up [Re: hippie] #7881692
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Originally Posted by hippie
Do you know how the national archives know said documents even exist ?


Does it matter? The fact is Trump was not suppose to take them. It is clearly covered under PRA

"How much time do outgoing Presidents have to go through their papers to determine what to retain as personal documents?

The Presidential Records Act (PRA) requires the President to separate personal documents from Presidential records before leaving office. 44 U.S.C. 2203(b). The PRA makes clear that, upon the conclusion of the President’s term in office, NARA assumes responsibility for the custody, control, preservation of, and access to the records of a President. 44 U.S.C. 2203(g)(1). The PRA makes the legal status of Presidential records clear and unambiguous, providing that the United States reserves and retains “complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records.” 44 U.S.C. 2202. There is no history, practice, or provision in law for presidents to take official records with them when they leave office to sort through, such as for a two-year period as described in some reports. If a former President or Vice President finds Presidential records among personal materials, he or she is expected to contact NARA in a timely manner to secure the transfer of those Presidential records to NARA. "

Source: National Archives website


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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up [Re: 52Carl] #7881697
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Originally Posted by 52Carl
All you Trump bashers need to wake up, stop sniffing glue and smoking weed.
Open up your mind a bit with serious intention.
Do you think that there is a single candidate running for the Republican nomination which the enemy of the state will not use the Patriot Act to spy on and indict them as soon as they look like they will win the nomination? The same playbook they used on Trump way before he was elected?
DeSantis hates gays, trans, drag queens, black history, Mickey Mouse, and wants all women who accidentally got pregnant to die from backroom hanger abortions.
Tim Scott is the "Black face" of the Republican Party.
Nikki Haley, as a woman, is past her prime. "Look it up on google" (Don Lemon, CNN).
Chris Christie killed people who couldn't be transported by ambulances on purpose by closing a highway as publicity stunt.
Need I go on?
Y'all can go ahead and play checkers while the enemy of the state kills what's left of this country by playing chess.



Good list...though don't forget to add this too ....all citizens who are determined to raise their children apart from freak and Marxist influence , as well as all the rest of Americans , who love the Constitution, and their rights thereof, truly masculine men , and women who love and support them with their own unending strength , are all terrorists.

It is the people , the citizens everywhere in this country who staunchly stand for their veterans and constitutional rights that really are the targets , who want true active representation.

You summed it all up well , Carl.

Re: Consequences for Trumped Up [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7881698
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To liberal, anti-Trump people who can't or don't want to see how bad this is for our country, no it doesn't seem to matter.

Kinda like Hillary said about our people they allowed to get killed......she asked.."What difference does it make now?"

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Originally Posted by hippie
To liberal, anti-Trump people who can't or don't want to see how bad this is for our country, no it doesn't seem to matter.

Kinda like Hillary said about our people they allowed to get killed......she asked.."What difference does it make now?"


How bad is a former president obstructing justice?

The "very stable genius" should have just given back the classified documents. Instead, he lied and conspired with others.

He is a deranged megalomaniac. That's why he is in this mess.

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