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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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06/10/23 01:09 PM
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I dont think he has any real support.
George Floyd had more support than Trump ever will by the looks of it.
I think Trump supporters value their material goods and lifestyle,paycheques etc more than the ideology.
I think the fallout from the Jan 6 incident cemented that.
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Forget that fear of gravity-get a little savagery in your life.
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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up
[Re: Blaine County]
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06/10/23 01:12 PM
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To liberal, anti-Trump people who can't or don't want to see how bad this is for our country, no it doesn't seem to matter.
Kinda like Hillary said about our people they allowed to get killed......she asked.."What difference does it make now?" How bad is a former president obstructing justice? The "very stable genius" should have just given back the classified documents. Instead, he lied and conspired with others. He is a deranged megalomaniac. That's why he is in this mess. So if he had played your pedo games then you wouldn't laugh and call him names?
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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up
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06/10/23 01:24 PM
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He should've just smashed them with a hammer or washed them with bleachbit. No intent as Comet said there.
Again, its a precedent all Presidents before him did, and was ok. nothing you say can change that. "Did President Obama take Presidential records to Chicago after he left office? No. When President Obama left office in 2017, NARA took physical and legal custody of the records of his administration in accordance with the Presidential Records Act. NARA made arrangements to move the roughly 30 million pages of paper Presidential records of the Obama administration to a federally acquired, modified, and secured temporary facility that NARA leased in Hoffman Estates, IL, which meets NARA’s requirements for records storage and security. NARA moved the records to Hoffman Estates because of the intention of President Obama to build a Presidential Library in the Chicago area." Source: National Archives website
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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06/10/23 01:44 PM
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MAGA.
What a shame to see this happening in out great country, but we will see far worse soon enough.
nothing ever came of the 5 million bribe biden took?
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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up
[Re: Dirt]
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06/10/23 01:53 PM
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Do you know how the national archives know said documents even exist ? Does it matter? The fact is Trump was not suppose to take them. It is clearly covered under PRA "How much time do outgoing Presidents have to go through their papers to determine what to retain as personal documents? The Presidential Records Act (PRA) requires the President to separate personal documents from Presidential records before leaving office. 44 U.S.C. 2203(b). The PRA makes clear that, upon the conclusion of the President’s term in office, NARA assumes responsibility for the custody, control, preservation of, and access to the records of a President. 44 U.S.C. 2203(g)(1). The PRA makes the legal status of Presidential records clear and unambiguous, providing that the United States reserves and retains “complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records.” 44 U.S.C. 2202. There is no history, practice, or provision in law for presidents to take official records with them when they leave office to sort through, such as for a two-year period as described in some reports. If a former President or Vice President finds Presidential records among personal materials, he or she is expected to contact NARA in a timely manner to secure the transfer of those Presidential records to NARA. " Source: National Archives website X2 Most people, when directly confronted by evidence that they are wrong, do not change their point of view or plan of action but justify it even more tenaciously. Once we are invested in a belief and have justified its wisdom, changing our minds is literally hard work. It’s much easier to slot that new evidence into an existing framework and do the mental justification to keep it there than it is to change the framework.
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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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06/10/23 01:58 PM
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it is e-z to choose who to charge when you have/have had control of the justice dept...all the evidence on the bidens and nothing.....repeat that 50X over for all the other things not charged. 'They' have had control for a long time before 2016 and trump never stopped that.
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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up
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06/10/23 02:13 PM
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How bad is a former president obstructing justice?
The "very stable genius" should have just given back the classified documents. Instead, he lied and conspired with others.
He is a deranged megalomaniac. That's why he is in this mess.
So most intelligent people would ask themselves why President Trump would hold onto such documents. Then the next question would be why on earth would so much energy and resources be spent by his political enemies to get said documents. Then the next question would be about the documents and who can be indicted because of the documents. Is President Trump holding onto those documents because of what he can do to his enemies with those documents? I am sure it is pathetic how many classified documents are out of the national archives in a congressman/senators,vp house. All he has to do is make copies of those documents on a thumb drive and put them ANYWHERE. They could look for decades and never find them. President Trump has the goods on someone big and it has them scared to death. It's no wonder no charges have stuck to him and these won't either. The charges will be forgotten about or suddenly disappear from the news. In less than a month these charges will disappear. Nothing will come of this. Nothing, zero, nada, zilch. When are you Trump haters gonna learn? Any of you haters ever heard of Sandy Berger? Nothing happened to him except a fine. It was a misdemeanor. Notice how things change for some random unknown reason? (sarcasm) https://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna7351422
How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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06/10/23 02:18 PM
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According to Kash Patel, who was there, Trump declassified all the stuff related to the Russian collusion hoax, things that implicated Obama and Hillary, and THAT is what this is all.about.
Exactly How dare he retain proof that Obama, Clinton and Biden are treasonous trailer trash scum.
Give an illegal alien a fish and he eats for a day. Deport him and you never have to feed him ever again!
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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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06/10/23 02:22 PM
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You really want to go there defending the CIA, FBI, and the other alphabet agencies. The latest example is the withdrawal from Afghanistan, then Iraq, Afghanistan again then Viet Nam and on and on!
As sunshine over time gives light to the truth I for one am not feeling good about the agencies and oh yah and then Kennedy assignation. I am moving on!
With elections that fall where they may, are we really free and actually have a say!
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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up
[Re: Oh Snap]
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06/10/23 02:36 PM
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You really want to go there defending the CIA, FBI, and the other alphabet agencies. The latest example is the withdrawal from Afghanistan, then Iraq, Afghanistan again then Viet Nam and on and on!
As sunshine over time gives light to the truth I for one am not feeling good about the agencies and oh yah and then Kennedy assignation. I am moving on!
With elections that fall where they may, are we really free and actually have a say!
you left out uke is beating the rus and the arab spring..
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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up
[Re: white17]
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06/10/23 02:43 PM
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X2
Most people, when directly confronted by evidence that they are wrong, do not change their point of view or plan of action but justify it even more tenaciously.
Once we are invested in a belief and have justified its wisdom, changing our minds is literally hard work. It’s much easier to slot that new evidence into an existing framework and do the mental justification to keep it there than it is to change the framework.
The funny thing is that all these guys that hate politicians ( not as much as me ) keep dealing with my simple yes or no question like politicians. 
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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06/10/23 02:43 PM
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Then there is Bay of Pigs. Cubans paid for that one! I worked with some of those Cubans that wanted their country back. They were young and all they wanted was their country back! They tried to recruit me but my parents had no part in letting me go help.
I love the smell of burning spruce---I love the sound of a spring time goose---I love the feel of 40 below---from my trapline I will never go!
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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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So dirt, would it be a good idea to have someone who is not a politician get into DC and change things up?
Oh wait!!!
How many lies will people believe before they realize their own idiocy?
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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up
[Re: HobbieTrapper]
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06/10/23 02:51 PM
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Dirt just answered his own question with a question. That’s politics at its finest ,eh!
I love the smell of burning spruce---I love the sound of a spring time goose---I love the feel of 40 below---from my trapline I will never go!
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Re: Consequences for Trumped Up
[Re: Dirt]
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06/10/23 02:52 PM
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Did only Blane and I read the indictment? Or maybe just the only two who believe it ......lol
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