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Re: Coyote Lures
[Re: canebrake]
#7890927
06/23/23 05:13 AM
06/23/23 05:13 AM
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Joined: Apr 2012
Northern Mn
rick olson
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trapper
Joined: Apr 2012
Northern Mn
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So many good one's out there,I've had very good response with Tainted Love,Bad Company Weiser's,Punisher Keg Creek,GH 2 Fox Hollow,C-50,Crow Creek Corr's,Old 3 Toes John G, Bounty Hunter,Voo Doo Fox Hollow and Pro's choice Carman's to name a few. Forgot to mention Lucero's,Lennon's ,Caven's and June's.
Last edited by rick olson; 06/23/23 05:16 AM.
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Re: Coyote Lures
[Re: canebrake]
#7891042
06/23/23 07:36 AM
06/23/23 07:36 AM
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Joined: Dec 2012
NC - Here there and everywhere
coondagger2
"Brat"
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"Brat"
Joined: Dec 2012
NC - Here there and everywhere
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Has anyone else found a much increased success rate when only carrying a couple lures/baits? I used to carry around a whole bucket of lures and baits, noticed I do much better now that I have standardized my gear and my lures. I think we give coyotes a little too much credit thinking it takes 10 or 12 different lures in the bag to catch them. Heck, 75% of the time I'm not even using lure now
Gotta live up to the nickname...
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Re: Coyote Lures
[Re: canebrake]
#7891119
06/23/23 09:51 AM
06/23/23 09:51 AM
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Joined: Jan 2017
Marion Kansas
Yes sir
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trapper
Joined: Jan 2017
Marion Kansas
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Here's a few reasons I normally don't post what I find as very attractive to coyotes and what isn't. First I don't want to run another maker down Second I regular see lures/ baits that aren't that good being recommended and it's not my intent to offend anyone Third I want people to take the initiative to test themselves, they will learn way more this way and have more confidence in there own findings And fourth I'm moving towards selling my own products and don't want to come across as bias and trying to push my stuff by running down others
I've posted positive about lures or baits that caught coyotes for me when I first started that I thought were good but with more experience and testing giving me a better idea what a good reaction I couldn't recommend them anymore. Good is a relative term based off ones opinion what good should be I've compared notes with good trappers across the country about lures/baits and have sent my stuff all over the country for testing and as a whole I dont see a huge difference on the regional thing. Some areas coyotes are easy to catch and a lesser attraction will catch better but a better lure/bait will generally still out produce it. Same thing with time of year, spring and summer coyotes are generally less aggressive/less interested but a better attractor will still out perform others despite the season. In other words my finding is the best is still the best no matter what time of season it is. These are general theories based on what I see and there are always a few exceptions when it comes to coyotes.
Ultimately one should always pay attention to what the coyotes tell you over what anyone says, they aren't bias and won't lie to you.
Remember stone tools "worked" for thousands of years but there's a difference between "works" and " works good".
Last edited by Yes sir; 06/23/23 09:55 AM.
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Re: Coyote Lures
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#7891213
06/23/23 11:47 AM
06/23/23 11:47 AM
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Joined: Jun 2021
Indiana
HoosierTrapper07
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Indiana
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Seldom---- wealth of info there. How do I find your you tube channel and what lures would you use If you were targeting coyotes again. I have had good results with Luceros lures and Carmen's canine call it was yellow label Just type SeldomFales in Youtube and you'll find it. I listed the very best lures and baits I've used. Something I would never do when I was trapping coyote. I'm trapping beaver now so I'm passing my experience and information on hoping I can help some folks who are having difficulty. Luceros book is a very good read and in it you'll find his version of my Disco Dirthole Set and I will tell you he's an observer & thinker! Seldom, Do your YouTube videos explain how you go about doing your tests? That's where I'm struggling. Are you doing mock sets or just smearing lure somewhere? Just 1 lure or multiple in the area to see if animals prefer one over the other?
Last edited by HoosierTrapper07; 06/23/23 11:48 AM.
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Re: Coyote Lures
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#7891253
06/23/23 12:41 PM
06/23/23 12:41 PM
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Joined: Jun 2021
Indiana
HoosierTrapper07
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Indiana
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I explained my process in several videos but I can’t remember if I did in the majority. Here is my testing process- Once you’ve decided on a test location I make the test site itself by drilling a 1” diameter hole 8” deep straight down and I don’t remove any dirt, just down & out. I use a dinner knife as the applicator and stick close to 3/4 of a tsp down the hole as far as the knife will reach.. I do the same thing with baits except I use about 1/2 Tb down the hole.
I’ve found that it’s extremely important not to make any changes to whatever your process is, you want all aspects of each test as identical as possible. The reduction of variables is of most importance! I’m not making a trap set, I’m testing the attractiveness of a scent so I don’t want ANY VISUAL variables that can & will skew the results. I don’t brush out my tracks, I choose a site for the hole, walk directly to it, do my thing, and walk away which does not mean that I necessarily walk by, that has to do with the direction I’m going to next. I don’t wear special footwear but I do use gloves.
I have several times tested as many as 3 lures at one location and made the holes about 10’ apart. Thank you very much.
Last edited by HoosierTrapper07; 06/23/23 12:41 PM.
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Re: Coyote Lures
[Re: canebrake]
#7891331
06/23/23 03:09 PM
06/23/23 03:09 PM
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Joined: Aug 2011
Peoria County Illinois
Larry Baer
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Joined: Aug 2011
Peoria County Illinois
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O'Gorman's lures always did well for me here. All the other farm boys used Hawbaker's because their dad's did. I think the coyotes here never smelled O'Gorman's until I used it so I did real well with it. LDC, Plenty Coyotes, Big Horns Medicine- they really dig for this one. I have been trying some from Wayne Derrick the last few years. G-Man and 1080. I tried 1080 on some pipe dream sets and it worked well for that. I asked Wayne what it smelled like '' Dead Stuff'' was his answer. It does. Carman Triple Threat is an awesome late coon lure for dirtholes. June's Fox Frenzy works well here for Fox and Coyotes. Ed Schnieder X-Factor great lure too
I have not have very many that do not work but after a couple years it pays to switch. Don't tell the others guys what you are switching to either. I find there is a lack of interest if I stick to the same lure year after year. It also pays to use a lure holder and take your lure away at the end of the season so they aren't smelling it all next spring. I used to use those old metal band aid boxes with holes poked in the lid. Now I use a small jelly jar or Altiod mint box. This way it doesn't get all over your set. And it keeps the smell where you want it. When I leave the area I take this with me the best I can. I don't do this with gland lure- only things like Big Horns Medicine or Triple Threat.
Just passin through
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Re: Coyote Lures
[Re: canebrake]
#7891430
06/23/23 05:35 PM
06/23/23 05:35 PM
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Joined: Jan 2017
Marion Kansas
Yes sir
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trapper
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Marion Kansas
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Rick since your in a helpful mood could you point what I said that you think is breaking any rules. Im pretty simple but I dont see me saying I've sent lure out for testing or saying I may start selling lures as breaking the rules. Heck Bob post pics of his products regularly and Paul talks about his business. I see it mostly in same light as my posts, just some information and background to help others. If it's mostly just cause I disagreed with you or you don't like me just pm me. I'm a big boy I can handle it.
Is there a opening for a moderator position I missed. I'd even pm u my phone number if you want to discuss and compare our findings. I love talking coyotes and lures and baits. Maybe coordinate identical tests at the same time and compare notes?
Paul if u feel the same way as Rick just pm
Last edited by Yes sir; 06/23/23 05:37 PM.
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Re: Coyote Lures
[Re: Wanna Be]
#7891485
06/23/23 07:14 PM
06/23/23 07:14 PM
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Joined: Sep 2021
Southeast Louisiana
Slipknot
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trapper
Joined: Sep 2021
Southeast Louisiana
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Yes sir, when you decide to sell, shoot me a PM. I’m narrowing my selection down yearly. I used to carry a bag full, now I’m down to the lures that work. WB ,I am with you. I am willing to try some out on in my area.
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