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Supreme Court strikes again #7895635
06/29/23 11:08 AM
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They just ruled that affirmative action for Gollege entrance is illegal and unconstitutional. Your Grades and Intelligence has to be considered!! Now why would your hard work in school and your intelligence matter!!!??? confused


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: Supreme Court strikes again [Re: randall brannon] #7895640
06/29/23 11:16 AM
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You're a step behind, colleges are abandoning SATs, and relying on essays, outlining the applicants struggles against adversity, lol.

Besides, since lower courts are ignoring the Bruen decision, saying the SC " got it wrong", with no repercussions, what makes you think theyll uphold this ruling?

Re: Supreme Court strikes again [Re: randall brannon] #7895649
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That's good now we have a level playing field . No more extra points for being a different color.

Re: Supreme Court strikes again [Re: randall brannon] #7895666
06/29/23 11:50 AM
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This is a good thing. I've seen a bunch of articles/videos of how Asians were turned down with near perfect SAT - GPA scores.

If you are smart and work hard to study , it should be rewarded.


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Re: Supreme Court strikes again [Re: Cragar] #7895671
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Originally Posted by Cragar
This is a good thing. I've seen a bunch of articles/videos of how Asians were turned down with near perfect SAT - GPA scores.

If you are smart and work hard to study , it should be rewarded.

Does anyone really think that just because you are dumb and a Minority you should be put at the front of the line for College?? I do not think that race should even be allowed on any type of application. I know underground when I bring a stack of applications home to go thru when I need new employees I have my wife use a marker and color out the Race part. It should not even be on them.


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: Supreme Court strikes again [Re: randall brannon] #7895677
06/29/23 11:59 AM
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Screw college.


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Re: Supreme Court strikes again [Re: randall brannon] #7895679
06/29/23 12:01 PM
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For the record the msm is claiming black kids will never get in now. lol


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Re: Supreme Court strikes again [Re: randall brannon] #7895702
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When Roberts wrote the decision he put a poison pill in there to give the universities a work around to continue to discriminate against non minorities.


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Re: Supreme Court strikes again [Re: randall brannon] #7895707
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Supreme Court: Racial Preferences Unconstitutional in College Admissions

WASHINGTON, DC — Racial preferences in college admissions violate the Equal Protection Clause of the Constitution, the Supreme Court decided Thursday in a historic decision with profound implications for racial preferences in many areas of law and public policy.

The Supreme Court upheld racial preferences — euphemistically called “affirmative action” — in college admissions in the Bakke decision in 1978. Since then, debates have raged about whether to use quotas, point systems, or other ways of favoring one applicant over another based on the color of their skin, with the Supreme Court upholding some approaches while trimming the sails on others. Conservatives have insisted for half a century that the Constitution does not allow any of those approaches.

The Equal Protection Clause of the Fourteenth Amendment commands that no state shall “deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.” The Supreme Court has always acknowledged that the central promise of the Equal Protection Clause is to forbid laws and public policies that discriminate on the basis of race.

While the Fourteenth Amendment applies only to state governments — which includes state and local public universities — Title VI of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 also extends racial discrimination to institutions that accept federal tax money, such as in grants and tuition aid. That applies to almost every private university.

Students For Fair Admission filed a number of lawsuits against public and private schools. The Supreme Court eventually took two of them: a challenge to the admissions policy of the University of North Carolina (UNC) under the Fourteenth Amendment and a challenge to Harvard’s policy under Title VI.

The Supreme Court held 6-3 that UNC’s policy is unconstitutional and held the same regarding Harvard’s policy by a 6-2 vote. (Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson recused herself from the Harvard case.) Chief Justice John Roberts wrote the majority opinion, joined by all the conservative and moderate justices.

The majority opinion declared that “the Harvard and UNC admissions programs cannot be reconciled with the guarantees of the Equal Protection Clause.” It concludes:

The Constitution deals with substance, not shadows, and the prohibition against racial discrimination is levelled at the thing, not the name. A benefit to a student who overcame racial discrimination, for example, must be tied to that student’s courage and determination. Or a benefit to a student whose heritage or culture motivated him or her to assume a leadership role or attain a particular goal must be tied to that student’s unique ability to contribute to the university. In other words, the student must be treated based on his or her experiences as an individual – not on the basis of race.

Many universities have for far too long done just the opposite. And in doing so, they have concluded, wrongly, that the touchstone of an individual’s identity is not challenges bested, skills built, or lessons learned but the color of their skin. Our constitutional history does not tolerate that choice.

Justice Clarence Thomas joined Roberts’ opinion in full but also wrote separately to highlight the constitutional principle at stake:

In the wake of the Civil War, the country focused its attention on restoring the Union and establishing the legal status of newly freed slaves. The Constitution was amended to abolish slavery and proclaim that all persons born in the United States are citizens, entitled to the privileges or immunities of citizenship and the equal protection of the laws. Because of the second founding, our Constitution is color-blind, and neither knows nor tolerates classes among citizens.

The cases are Students for Fair Admissions v. Presidents and Fellows of Harvard College and Students for Fair Admissions v. University of North Carolina, Nos. 20-1199 and 21-707 in the Supreme Court of the United States.

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Re: Supreme Court strikes again [Re: randall brannon] #7895708
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Kudos to the orange man and his SCOTUS picks. smile

Re: Supreme Court strikes again [Re: HobbieTrapper] #7895710
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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Screw college.



Whatcha talken' bout


Re: Supreme Court strikes again [Re: randall brannon] #7895717
06/29/23 01:00 PM
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I think Robert's opinion that he wrote weakens the decision.

Last edited by 8117 Steve R; 06/29/23 01:03 PM.

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Re: Supreme Court strikes again [Re: randall brannon] #7895722
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Just more brainwashed , doesn't matter what race they are.


There comes a point liberalism has gone too far, we're past that point.
Re: Supreme Court strikes again [Re: randall brannon] #7895723
06/29/23 01:09 PM
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Funny how the highest court makes a decision and the first thing old sniffy says he’s looking for ways to get around it, he can talk all he wants but you cannot believe a word the guy says anyways. Still can’t see how he gets away with not enforcing illegal immigration and promoting it with no real accountability.


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Re: Supreme Court strikes again [Re: Law Dog] #7895803
06/29/23 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Funny how the highest court makes a decision and the first thing old sniffy says he’s looking for ways to get around it, he can talk all he wants but you cannot believe a word the guy says anyways. Still can’t see how he gets away with not enforcing illegal immigration and promoting it with no real accountability.


There will be no accountability for joe until he’s deceased. Then he’ll be excited about his new body until the “elevator” stops. lol


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Re: Supreme Court strikes again [Re: randall brannon] #7895815
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This is going to sound racist to stupid and overly emotional people, but it's not. If you look at intelligence studies of sub-Saharan Africans, their average IQ is below the level for being recognized as mentally retarded in both Europe and the US.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160289609001275

https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country

This is not to say that there are not some brilliant people of sub-Saharan genetics, especially when they have European or Asian genetics as well. This does mean that proportionately far fewer people of sub-Saharan origin will qualify to get into college if IQ is the main determinant.

The right thing to do is judge people on their own merits and ignore their race. Its not right to skip over more qualified college candidates.

Keith


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Originally Posted by J Staton
Kudos to the orange man and his SCOTUS picks. smile

Also, keeping Garland off the court was the most meaningful thing McConnell has done in his career.



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Re: Supreme Court strikes again [Re: randall brannon] #7895818
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Look at who dominates the spelling bee competitions that’s not racist or coincidental either it’s just a fact. It sounds like race will still be considered but not the deciding factor to being accepted but they won’t sell it that way. Funny how the imbalance is so important now but the woke imbalance of representation just goes unnoticed everyday.


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Originally Posted by HobbieTrapper
Screw college.

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Re: Supreme Court strikes again [Re: Law Dog] #7895947
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Look at who dominates the spelling bee competitions that’s not racist or coincidental either it’s just a fact. It sounds like race will still be considered but not the deciding factor to being accepted but they won’t sell it that way. Funny how the imbalance is so important now but the woke imbalance of representation just goes unnoticed everyday.


Here is a little background on Indian American doninance of spelling bees.> Spelling bee dominance


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