I tried to renew an old thread but not getting any responses in trap talk. So I got permission on a new property and been scouting it quite a bit this summer. however it's old strip mine ground and very rocky. I can get earth anchors in some places but there are a few really good locations that I can't get an anchor in or use drags because it's open with not much vegetation. There are some big rocks I thought about drilling into and using like a 1/2"x5" concrete wedge anchor with a rebar swivel to attach the trap to. They hold very well I'm just worried if a coyote is fighting it for hours would they eventually work loose? Anyone ever tried it I'd like to hear some advice on it. Some may end up being 10ft of chain to get to a rock. Thanks for any input

Try the search tab or archives. Could’ve swore I’ve read something about some of these guys actually anchoring to rocks or using the larger ones as drags.

I have used a = 8 inch concrete block before in West Texas in sand dune county. They dont go far. 20 lb rock. Wired up well like the ol timers did will be just fine

Yea I read that and tried to renew it but it's in trap talk and just gets views and no answers and eventually gets buried. Thanks though

I thought of that too but then I'd have to haul cement blocks around. Someone had to use them anchors before. Much easier to throw the cordless hammer drill in and pound in some of them anchors to the rocks already there during the offseason and possibly use them year after year if they hold up. Thought I'd just grind the threads above the nut so it can't back off and let's play for the flat rebar attachment to spin. Thanks for the response, I'll go that route if I need to

Cordless drill with a concert bit. Get some drop In anchors. Go out before the season and pre drill your rocks at your locations. Drop In your expandable anchors set them and your good to go. There are anchors that have pre drilled holes In them so you can attach a quick link and a swivel.

What style do you recommend, like an eye bolt? I pounded some in yesterday for a test and was just using the regular ones with nut and washer figuring I'd attach a crunchprrof and loosen the nut after setting it and grind the threads a little above the nut so it can't back off but the swivel can spin? Will these hold up year after year? Recommend a certain length? Thank you

Grinding the threads off above the nut will not keep the nut in place. If you do not want the nut to come off, bugger up the threads above the nut or mushroom the end. If you want to be able to take the nut off later, you could drill the stud and put a cotter pin in it. Another option is to use a nyloc nut or just use two nuts jammed together.

I never said I was going to grind the threads completely off lol just hit it a little with the grinder enough it can't back off but thanks for the ideas

I have used Hydraulic Cement in holes and cracks to hold anchors, works very well.

I can't find a picture but I have used a anchor that has a split shaft and Is flat on the other end and has a hole In that flat spot. Drill the hole drop In the anchor and drive It In with your beater. As you drive In the anchor It expands.

My remedy for situations where traditional drags and stakes don't work is to import my own homemade "rock" drags. I make them out of leftover concrete. Dig holes the size and shape you want, shovel in concrete, imbed a few links of scrap chain in (with a few links exposed to attach your trap to). Carry some in the truck when scouting and place them on the bullseye. I have them scattered around my trapline and reuse them year to year. The biggest bobcats and coyote usually only go 40 - 50 yards at most and settle down where there is cover.

How heavy would a concrete "drag" have to be for a large eastern coyote not to move it?

Not sure. I haven't weighed mine. I have bigger ones to better anchor them in some places. I also have a few with little rebar pegs sticking out the bottom to leave better drag marks in real hard ground.

Hmmm that's got me thinking, at least for a couple spots. Unfortunately I can get extra concrete a few times a week😂 I may have to try a few. This property is a big deer lease and a lot of the decent coyote spots would be a long the roads. I suppose I could camo them in with some paint so the road hunters don't pick them out and mess with my equipment. Like coondagger said what would be a good weight, I like the idea of them moving them just a short distance to cover and getting them out of sight. Great post, thanks

The places I use them tend to be pretty rocky so they don't stand out that much. I Imagine in fields or places with no rocks they would stand out like a sore thumb. Which can be bad for theft and vandalism or good as a salient feature.

Have not gone this route but have been told by the owner of a electric repair shop that a inverter set up to run off a vehicals motor could have a power drill plugged into it.

My Toyota Tacoma has one built in already. Priceless!

Many areas of my line are too rocky for staking and too brushless for traditional drags, so I just use 10 feet of chain and tie off to a 30-40ish pound rock I find at the set with tripled up mechanics wire.

That's what I've been doing this off-season but I'm using concrete expansion bolts. Any issues with catches and such a long chain?