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Japanese beetle trap - super sized #7898484
07/03/23 03:30 PM
07/03/23 03:30 PM
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Have had pretty good luck protecting desirable plants from these beetles with a nicotine based spray. It gets absorbed into the plant and when they eat it, the nicotine kills them.

Occurs to me a guy could supersize that into a trap of sorts.........find a sacrificial tree in an isolated location, spray it, then leave one of those scent plugs from the bag a bug traps on the tree. Draws them in from all over and the tree kills them. Might even be able to do that industrial scale with something like a fence row of multiflora rose, which they seem to love.

The question then becomes.......what happens to a foot deep layer of deado's under the tree? Will those harm birds that eat them? Most animals are not affected by the nicotine like the insects are. As long as the trap tree is not blooming and drawing bees, it might work. As I understand it, there are three versions of these niconoids.........and some of them can even be poured on the tree or roots and it disperses throughout the entire plant. So trap tree could be a huge pin oak somewhere off in the distance. Or several of them.

Anyone tried it?


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Re: Japanese beetle trap - super sized [Re: HayDay] #7898486
07/03/23 03:34 PM
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60 miligrams of nicotine is enough to kill an adult human being.

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Re: Japanese beetle trap - super sized [Re: HayDay] #7898490
07/03/23 03:39 PM
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In that case, it would probably need some study as to how much nicotine is in a dead beetle, and can birds, fish or animals eat enough of those to be harmed. Coons have been known to graze on the dead ones on the ground. They always walk away. If it gets them, they die somewhere else.


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Re: Japanese beetle trap - super sized [Re: HayDay] #7898505
07/03/23 04:05 PM
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Sounds like a DDT event waiting to happen.......

Re: Japanese beetle trap - super sized [Re: HayDay] #7898508
07/03/23 04:06 PM
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The "nicotine" I'm using is acemitoprid. A mild neonicotinoid. If effective for about 10 days or so.


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Re: Japanese beetle trap - super sized [Re: jbyrd63] #7898526
07/03/23 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by jbyrd63
Sounds like a DDT event waiting to happen.......



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Re: Japanese beetle trap - super sized [Re: HayDay] #7898634
07/03/23 06:45 PM
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DDT fact and fantacy

False rap from tree huger.


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Re: Japanese beetle trap - super sized [Re: Tatiana] #7899001
07/04/23 09:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Tatiana
Specialized neonicotinoids kill bugs by disrupting the same biochem pathways as nicotine itself and are safer to all warm-blooded creatures, and this is what I'd use instead of actual nicotine. I actually have a trap plant in my garden - a very big horseradish plant which I regularly spray with Actara, which is a nicotinoid. Horseradish is much more smelly than most other crucifers and seems to attract the majority of new crucifer flea beetles. I find dead beetles under cabbage and radishes nearby, which I don't spray, so apparently even if they switch from to other crucifers after feeding on the horseradish, they still die.

I don't see why it wouldn't work in combination with a pheromone attractant on an isolated large plant/tree, as long as it's something these beetles eat.

Interesting


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Re: Japanese beetle trap - super sized [Re: HayDay] #7899087
07/04/23 10:23 AM
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Cover plants you don't want hit by the Beatles with wedding veil..

Re: Japanese beetle trap - super sized [Re: HayDay] #7899330
07/04/23 04:38 PM
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milky spores, kills the young

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