No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers ***NO POLITICS
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting~The Pen and Quill

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum~ Fermenter's Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Minnesota Trapline Products
Please support our sponsor for the Trappers Talk Page - Minnesota Trapline Products


Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
Tax Payers got shafted again #7924841
08/10/23 08:38 AM
08/10/23 08:38 AM
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 4,404
west virginia usa
R
randall brannon Offline OP
trapper
randall brannon  Offline OP
trapper
R

Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 4,404
west virginia usa
So Hair Sniffers Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm was on the Board of Proterra an electric Bus Company and got them Hundreds of MILLIONS in Tax Paid Grants. Even Kneepads Harris Touted how great it was and how electric Buses would help save the Planet. Then days later they file Bankruptcy just after Jennifer and others quickly got their money out. Seems like Jennifer got 1.5 million alone. Now just think how much heck would have been raised if it was a Trump Business or one of the Families. Don't worry Al Gore got his investments out just before they filed as well!!!


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: Tax Payers got shafted again [Re: randall brannon] #7925195
08/10/23 05:33 PM
08/10/23 05:33 PM
Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 770
Bush Alaska
victor#0 Offline
trapper
victor#0  Offline
trapper

Joined: Apr 2018
Posts: 770
Bush Alaska
It's called a " banana republic " but nobody really seems to care. They used to at least try to hide it But now they just rub it in your face while laughing all the way to the bank.

Re: Tax Payers got shafted again [Re: randall brannon] #7925197
08/10/23 05:37 PM
08/10/23 05:37 PM
Joined: May 2009
Posts: 15,999
Champaign County, Ohio.
K
KeithC Offline
trapper
KeithC  Offline
trapper
K

Joined: May 2009
Posts: 15,999
Champaign County, Ohio.
Just like the Mafia, the democrats own the law enforcement agents and judges, they have paid off.

Keith

Re: Tax Payers got shafted again [Re: randall brannon] #7925203
08/10/23 05:46 PM
08/10/23 05:46 PM
Joined: Dec 2022
Posts: 631
Washington
J
Jingles Offline
trapper
Jingles  Offline
trapper
J

Joined: Dec 2022
Posts: 631
Washington
Be interesting to see just how many other politicians made big bucks, just might show who the snakes in the swamp are. But that will undoubtedly never become public info. Seems a lot like Solyndra the last time a Demorat held the WH
Maybe it is time for We the People to go swamp critter hunting.


yea I know just made another watch list

Last edited by Jingles; 08/10/23 10:22 PM.

The job of a Patriot is not to protect his country but to protect the people from the tryannical government
Re: Tax Payers got shafted again [Re: KeithC] #7925266
08/10/23 07:08 PM
08/10/23 07:08 PM
Joined: Apr 2022
Posts: 3,896
Wisconsin
G
Guss Offline
trapper
Guss  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Apr 2022
Posts: 3,896
Wisconsin
Originally Posted by KeithC
Just like the Mafia, the democrats own the law enforcement agents and judges, they have paid off.

Keith

The mafia has some morals left, the Govt does not.

Re: Tax Payers got shafted again [Re: KeithC] #7925290
08/10/23 07:34 PM
08/10/23 07:34 PM
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 4,404
west virginia usa
R
randall brannon Offline OP
trapper
randall brannon  Offline OP
trapper
R

Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 4,404
west virginia usa
Originally Posted by KeithC
Just like the Mafia, the democrats own the law enforcement agents and judges, they have paid off.

Keith

The Mafia were not anywhere near as evil as these Politicians!!!


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: Tax Payers got shafted again [Re: Jingles] #7925291
08/10/23 07:34 PM
08/10/23 07:34 PM
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 4,404
west virginia usa
R
randall brannon Offline OP
trapper
randall brannon  Offline OP
trapper
R

Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 4,404
west virginia usa
Originally Posted by Jingles
Be interesting to see just how many other politicians made big bucks, just might show who the snakes in the swamp are. But that will undoubtedly never become public info. Seems a lot like Solyndra the last time a Dakota held the WH
Maybe it is time for We the People to go swamp critter hunting.


yea I know just made another watch list

I bet James and BS are speed dialing as we speak!!!


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: Tax Payers got shafted again [Re: randall brannon] #7925352
08/10/23 08:53 PM
08/10/23 08:53 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
J
James Offline
"Minka"
James  Offline
"Minka"
J

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
Did someone summon me?

Where is the source of these contentions? Some people make posts without factual accountability, which seems okay when conservatives are doing it. The OP doesn't have a lot of credibility on his own.

If true, I hope someone with standing sues to recover taxpayer funds.

Jim

Last edited by James; 08/10/23 08:53 PM.

Forum Infidel since 2001

"And that troll bs is something triggered snowflakes say when they dont like what someone posts." - Boco
Re: Tax Payers got shafted again [Re: James] #7925374
08/10/23 09:13 PM
08/10/23 09:13 PM
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 4,404
west virginia usa
R
randall brannon Offline OP
trapper
randall brannon  Offline OP
trapper
R

Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 4,404
west virginia usa
Originally Posted by James
Did someone summon me?

Where is the source of these contentions? Some people make posts without factual accountability, which seems okay when conservatives are doing it. The OP doesn't have a lot of credibility on his own.

If true, I hope someone with standing sues to recover taxpayer funds.

Jim

OMG!!! Have you ever learned to READ and LISTEN??? Not only did Jessie Watters do a segment on this but you should also check BPR Daily. Google it. Sorry but your beloved Hair Sniffer and his Cabinet are at it again!!!


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: Tax Payers got shafted again [Re: randall brannon] #7925380
08/10/23 09:20 PM
08/10/23 09:20 PM
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 5,961
2A Sanctuaries-W. OK & N. NM
Blaine County Offline
trapper
Blaine County  Offline
trapper

Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 5,961
2A Sanctuaries-W. OK & N. NM
Retired Randall is an even more valuable gem now. It's hard to believe but now we'll get more real time reporting of what he thinks he heard on the "news."

Re: Tax Payers got shafted again [Re: randall brannon] #7925383
08/10/23 09:22 PM
08/10/23 09:22 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
J
James Offline
"Minka"
James  Offline
"Minka"
J

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
The person making a contention has the burden to prove it true. No one has the duty to prove the contention not-true.

I don't have time or inclination to do your research for you. I've told you I don't follow the media. I prefer to get news online, partly from forums like this one. If there is anything to read besides some OP's rant.

Jim


Forum Infidel since 2001

"And that troll bs is something triggered snowflakes say when they dont like what someone posts." - Boco
Re: Tax Payers got shafted again [Re: randall brannon] #7925400
08/10/23 09:32 PM
08/10/23 09:32 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,233
Three Lakes,WI 72
C
corky Online content
trapper
corky  Online Content
trapper
C

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 7,233
Three Lakes,WI 72


http://www.usdebtclock.org/
This place is getting more like Facebook every day.

Re: Tax Payers got shafted again [Re: randall brannon] #7925448
08/10/23 10:07 PM
08/10/23 10:07 PM
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 19,720
pa
H
hippie Offline
trapper
hippie  Offline
trapper
H

Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 19,720
pa
With the kickbacks in the tens of millions that have been uncovered so far, along with his policies that are strangling our country.....how many tax dollars has this family cost us?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/ho...ussian-kazakh-oligarchs-total-clears-20m

Last edited by hippie; 08/10/23 10:08 PM.
Re: Tax Payers got shafted again [Re: corky] #7925454
08/10/23 10:12 PM
08/10/23 10:12 PM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
J
James Offline
"Minka"
James  Offline
"Minka"
J

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho


Thanks, Corky.

The first article dated May 26 says that DOE Secretary Jennifer Granholz, following Republican criticism, sold her shares of the electric bus company under a conflict of interest agreement.

The second article dated August 9 says the company went bankrupt after receiving a ten-million dollar loan by the Trump administration, which was then forgiven in 2022, under Biden.

So there is an innocent explanation, but it does smell rotten, doesn't it? It would be really bad if she'd been an officer or director of the company, as opposed to a shareholder. Whatever info is given to shareholders is public, absent insider trading.

I don't think she's going down. But it does look bad, I agree.

Jim


Forum Infidel since 2001

"And that troll bs is something triggered snowflakes say when they dont like what someone posts." - Boco
Re: Tax Payers got shafted again [Re: James] #7925456
08/10/23 10:16 PM
08/10/23 10:16 PM
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 19,720
pa
H
hippie Offline
trapper
hippie  Offline
trapper
H

Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 19,720
pa
Originally Posted by James


Thanks, Corky.

The first article dated May 26 says that DOE Secretary Jennifer Granholz, following Republican criticism, sold her shares of the electric bus company under a conflict of interest agreement.

The second article dated August 9 says the company went bankrupt after receiving a ten-million dollar loan by the Trump administration, which was then forgiven in 2022, under Biden.

So there is an innocent explanation, but it does smell rotten, doesn't it? It would be really bad if she'd been an officer or director of the company, as opposed to a shareholder. Whatever info is given to shareholders is public, absent insider trading.

I don't think she's going down. But it does look bad, I agree.

Jim



She was a board member. Is that different from a director?

Re: Tax Payers got shafted again [Re: Blaine County] #7925505
08/10/23 11:34 PM
08/10/23 11:34 PM
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 4,404
west virginia usa
R
randall brannon Offline OP
trapper
randall brannon  Offline OP
trapper
R

Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 4,404
west virginia usa
Originally Posted by Blaine County
Retired Randall is an even more valuable gem now. It's hard to believe but now we'll get more real time reporting of what he thinks he heard on the "news."

Still more Factual than the LIES and Hypocrisy you Post BC!!!


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: Tax Payers got shafted again [Re: corky] #7925507
08/10/23 11:36 PM
08/10/23 11:36 PM
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 4,404
west virginia usa
R
randall brannon Offline OP
trapper
randall brannon  Offline OP
trapper
R

Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 4,404
west virginia usa

It also was not Just Her that suddenly got their money out. Al Gore and others did as well.


God please keep they 19 fallen UBB miners out of trouble up there.
Re: Tax Payers got shafted again [Re: randall brannon] #7925513
08/11/23 12:12 AM
08/11/23 12:12 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
J
James Offline
"Minka"
James  Offline
"Minka"
J

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
[/quote]

She was a board member. Is that different from a director?[/quote]


Board of directors, yes. That makes it worse.

Jim


Forum Infidel since 2001

"And that troll bs is something triggered snowflakes say when they dont like what someone posts." - Boco
Re: Tax Payers got shafted again [Re: randall brannon] #7925529
08/11/23 03:16 AM
08/11/23 03:16 AM
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
J
James Offline
"Minka"
James  Offline
"Minka"
J

Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 17,379
Coeur d' Alene, Idaho
Something just hit me. I never did bankruptcy law, but there's a remedy known as a "clawback," where the bankruptcy trustee is allowed to recover payments the corporation made to officers, directors, and shareholders within a certain period of the bankruptcy filing. If I recall right, it's either 90 or 180 days.

So she may have to pay her stock sale proceeds back to the trust estate. Shareholders are the last in line, after creditors, for getting paid from the estate. Typically, there's nothing left for them; their stock has no value.

If I were her, I'd pay it back right away, before the trustee sues her arse into bankruptcy court. And before the administration's critics make more political hay out of it.

Jim


Forum Infidel since 2001

"And that troll bs is something triggered snowflakes say when they dont like what someone posts." - Boco
Re: Tax Payers got shafted again [Re: randall brannon] #7925545
08/11/23 05:15 AM
08/11/23 05:15 AM
Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 19,720
pa
H
hippie Offline
trapper
hippie  Offline
trapper
H

Joined: Feb 2010
Posts: 19,720
pa

Page 1 of 2 1 2
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread