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China now owns land in 27 states. #7928220
08/14/23 06:02 PM
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Land ownership climbing every year now a total of 385,000 acres. I wonder what their end game is? Does China allow Americans to purchase land in their country?


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Re: China now owns land in 27 states. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7928227
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Canada is the biggest foreign landowner of US land.


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Re: China now owns land in 27 states. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7928255
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I don’t think anyone but the Chinese government can own land in China.

Re: China now owns land in 27 states. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7928268
08/14/23 06:46 PM
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They can't take it over there.

Re: China now owns land in 27 states. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7928270
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Land in 27 states and how close to some Army, Navy, Marine, Airforce bases?

Re: China now owns land in 27 states. [Re: ] #7928272
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Originally Posted by Posco
They can't take it over there.


Couple of their generals published book in 2018 laying out how they needed North America's natural resources and needed to depopulate it without using nukes. Mentioned a genetically targeted virus...

Re: China now owns land in 27 states. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7928274
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Bet they aren't buying up airid non productive land. Don't for get about the slaughter houses they own now too.


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Re: China now owns land in 27 states. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7928277
08/14/23 06:51 PM
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I'm honestly surprised it's not all 50 States, all the US Territories with a big chunk of strategic land in Washington DC.

I don't think China should be allowed to own any land in the US. I don't think they should be allowed to own any part of our food production either.

Keith

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They OWN enough of our politicians...

Re: China now owns land in 27 states. [Re: KeithC] #7928289
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Originally Posted by KeithC
I'm honestly surprised it's not all 50 States, all the US Territories with a big chunk of strategic land in Washington DC.

I don't think China should be allowed to own any land in the US. I don't think they should be allowed to own any part of our food production either.

Keith

They make all our drugs.

Re: China now owns land in 27 states. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7928292
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That’s the scary thought Mando at least for now there is still animal production that’s in the USA.

Re: China now owns land in 27 states. [Re: Grandpa Trapper] #7928297
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Originally Posted by Mando
Originally Posted by KeithC
I'm honestly surprised it's not all 50 States, all the US Territories with a big chunk of strategic land in Washington DC.

I don't think China should be allowed to own any land in the US. I don't think they should be allowed to own any part of our food production either.

Keith

They make all our drugs.


Only about 7% of our pharmaceuticals come from China.

https://www.uschina.org/united-states-dependent-china-pharmaceuticals

Most are made and finished here in the US.

Before my dad retired, he was Director of Pharmaceuticals, Health & Beauty, Research & Development, Iams, Gillette and more at Procter & Gamble. I know a fair amount about pharmaceuticals. Most other countries can't produce pure enough chemicals to sell in the US.

Keith

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We should took care of them years ago.

Re: China now owns land in 27 states. [Re: Guss] #7928311
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Originally Posted by Guss
We should took care of them years ago.


Conflict does look inevitable. I don't see any easy solutions. I wish we steered China to our way of thinking like we did long ago with Japan and South Korea.

Keith

Re: China now owns land in 27 states. [Re: KeithC] #7928315
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Originally Posted by KeithC


Only about 7% of our pharmaceuticals come from China.

https://www.uschina.org/united-states-dependent-china-pharmaceuticals

Most are made and finished here in the US.

Before my dad retired, he was Director of Pharmaceuticals, Health & Beauty, Research & Development, Iams, Gillette and more at Procter & Gamble. I know a fair amount about pharmaceuticals. Most other countries can't produce pure enough chemicals to sell in the US.

Keith



Maybe 7% of completed medications
But aren't most chemicals used in drugs manufactured in China and India?

And the 7% is total, correct?

"Last year, China accounted for 95 percent of U.S. imports of ibuprofen, 91 percent of U.S. imports of hydrocortisone, 70 percent of U.S. imports of acetaminophen, 40 to 45 percent of U.S. imports of penicillin and 40 percent of U.S. imports of heparin, according to Commerce Department data."

Re: China now owns land in 27 states. [Re: DaveP] #7928320
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Originally Posted by DaveP
Originally Posted by KeithC


Only about 7% of our pharmaceuticals come from China.

https://www.uschina.org/united-states-dependent-china-pharmaceuticals

Most are made and finished here in the US.

Before my dad retired, he was Director of Pharmaceuticals, Health & Beauty, Research & Development, Iams, Gillette and more at Procter & Gamble. I know a fair amount about pharmaceuticals. Most other countries can't produce pure enough chemicals to sell in the US.

Keith



Maybe 7% of completed medications
But aren't most chemicals used in drugs manufactured in China and India?

And the 7% is total, correct?

"Last year, China accounted for 95 percent of U.S. imports of ibuprofen, 91 percent of U.S. imports of hydrocortisone, 70 percent of U.S. imports of acetaminophen, 40 to 45 percent of U.S. imports of penicillin and 40 percent of U.S. imports of heparin, according to Commerce Department data."


If you look at the link I posted, you will see that only 7% of the active pharmaceutical ingredients in pharmaceuticals consumed here in the US come from China. Only 6% of finished pharmaceuticals consumed here in the US are made in China. Over half of our pharmaceuticals are made here in the US.
China's labs mostly suck at quality control. China really sucks at research and development.

As a people, the Chinese are smart, but not creative. That's why they bribe US politicians to help steal our technology.

Keith

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Keith, I saw that 7% from.a number of sources, yet higher numbers ftom other sources.

China itself claimed that if we wanted a trade war ( over computer chips) they would withhold medical and Vitamin components.

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Re: China now owns land in 27 states. [Re: KeithC] #7928336
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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by Guss
We should took care of them years ago.


Conflict does look inevitable. I don't see any easy solutions. I wish we steered China to our way of thinking like we did long ago with Japan and South Korea.

Keith

It took a couple nukes before Japan saw it our way. Just saying!

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Originally Posted by DaveP
Keith, I saw that 7% from.a number of sources, yet higher numbers ftom other sources.

China itself claimed that if we wanted a trade war ( over computer chips) they would withhold medical and Vitamin components.



Some minor difference in numbers comes from if the statistics quoted are for all pharmaceuticals, pharmaceuticals for human consumption or pharmaceuticals for animal consumption, which don't have to be nearly as pure as the ones for human consuption.

China mostly produces low quality pharmaceuticals for animals and simple, non-patented ones for human consumption.

Keith

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