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Cell grown chicken #7928245
08/14/23 07:21 PM
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I didn’t know that they were approved to sell cell cultured chicken for human consumption in the U.S., here’s an article to it, I don’t think that I could ever eat it. sick

https://www.nbcnews.com/science/sci...s-nations-first-lab-grown-meat-rcna90439

Re: Cell grown chicken [Re: Bob_Iowa] #7928265
08/14/23 07:45 PM
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Re: Cell grown chicken [Re: Bob_Iowa] #7928275
08/14/23 07:50 PM
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Funny thing is that if these vegan freaks and woke idiots do eventually replace meat with their frankenstein crap they will by natural consequence condemn millions if not billions of individual animals to death and render extinct thousands of years of genetic breeding to produce the breeds we rely upon.

They will have in one act literally tossed out the baby with the bath water.


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Re: Cell grown chicken [Re: Bob_Iowa] #7928283
08/14/23 07:57 PM
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Just thinking of the genetics side of this each animal consumed has a different genetic makeup and I do believe that the human body benefits from digesting those different DNA strands, what happens when it’s grown from the same DNA I think that would hurt the human body, this is a deeper question than I originally thought.

Re: Cell grown chicken [Re: Bob_Iowa] #7928298
08/14/23 08:12 PM
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People like eating chicken. A lot. I prefer drumsticks and thighs, skin on, fried in lard. People raise chickens cause people like me buy them. So long as us animal eaters keep eating them, people will keep raising them. I can't see this eliminating livestock production. Its a very fringe element that has a problem with eating animals.


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Re: Cell grown chicken [Re: danny clifton] #7928301
08/14/23 08:19 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
People like eating chicken. A lot. I prefer drumsticks and thighs, skin on, fried in lard. People raise chickens cause people like me buy them. So long as us animal eaters keep eating them, people will keep raising them. I can't see this eliminating livestock production. Its a very fringe element that has a problem with eating animals.


It won't unless one or two things happen.

Laws against and/or market pressure. Probably a combination of both, use the the first to push the price structure.

The final nail would be personal possession.

But I hope to see the idiots vegans shot long before it gets to that.

BTW, the skin is the best part.


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Re: Cell grown chicken [Re: Bob_Iowa] #7928302
08/14/23 08:20 PM
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It's been at least 25 years ago since I learned about meat chickens being 6 pounds in 6 weeks.
From hatching.
So it's not to far from what we already eat.
Remember that margarine was developed to fatten turkeys , and they wouldn't eat it. So they added yellow NO.5 coloring and called it almost butter, better for you than real butter.
One molecule from plastic is what they say.
Now they say butter is better for you.
LOL Kind of like global warming, and it's causes.
I like real milk and real butter , buy from local butchers and or farmers .
Closer to real as you can get.


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Not me that's Sci fine meat

Re: Cell grown chicken [Re: danny clifton] #7928304
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
People like eating chicken. A lot. I prefer drumsticks and thighs, skin on, fried in lard. People raise chickens cause people like me buy them. So long as us animal eaters keep eating them, people will keep raising them. I can't see this eliminating livestock production. Its a very fringe element that has a problem with eating animals.


The liberals will keep putting more restuctions on meat production, to make it prohibitively expensive to produce and consume for most people. Look at what's been going on in California towards those very ends.

Keith

Re: Cell grown chicken [Re: Ohio Wolverine] #7928308
08/14/23 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
It's been at least 25 years ago since I learned about meat chickens being 6 pounds in 6 weeks.
From hatching.
So it's not to far from what we already eat.
Remember that margarine was developed to fatten turkeys , and they wouldn't eat it. So they added yellow NO.5 coloring and called it almost butter, better for you than real butter.
One molecule from plastic is what they say.
Now they say butter is better for you.
LOL Kind of like global warming, and it's causes.
I like real milk and real butter , buy from local butchers and or farmers .
Closer to real as you can get.


And the broiler chicken and battery hen has eliminated many breeds already.


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Re: Cell grown chicken [Re: warrior] #7928321
08/14/23 08:40 PM
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by Ohio Wolverine
It's been at least 25 years ago since I learned about meat chickens being 6 pounds in 6 weeks.
From hatching.
So it's not to far from what we already eat.
Remember that margarine was developed to fatten turkeys , and they wouldn't eat it. So they added yellow NO.5 coloring and called it almost butter, better for you than real butter.
One molecule from plastic is what they say.
Now they say butter is better for you.
LOL Kind of like global warming, and it's causes.
I like real milk and real butter , buy from local butchers and or farmers .
Closer to real as you can get.


And the broiler chicken and battery hen has eliminated many breeds already.



I agree , IMHO the leghorn is the best laying hen, and the white rock or red rock the best meat and layer.


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Re: Cell grown chicken [Re: Bob_Iowa] #7928329
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I like minorcas for layers. Try finding good ones.


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Re: Cell grown chicken [Re: warrior] #7928338
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Have no knowledge of that breed or very little anyway.
Leghorns are used in factory farms as they can lay an egg a day.
Ate plenty of the old hens and young rooster as a kid .
Dad had his egg farm , and worked full time as a Master mechanic in the operating engineers .
Gathered 1000's of eggs and washed and candled them too.
That's why I raised the white and red rocks. They grew bigger and had a double value.


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In my experience they are right behind leghorns in total number of eggs but lay a large to extra large more consistently. And they are half again bigger in weight for a better bird for the stew pot when done. Young cockerels eat as good as a rock or rir.


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The profit margins that commercial farmers have to operate on are minuscule. I, Madco and several other members here know a large scale, Ohio Farmer named Tony Gill. At one time (he probably has more now) Tony had 8500 dairy cows, 5700 breeding sows and 2,500,000 laying hens.

I was talking to Tony a few years ago and he was ecstatic because he had found a new rodenticide that was more effective. Its use saved him 11 grams of feed per laying hen, per day. 11 grams doesn't sound like anything, but its use would save him tens of thousands of dollars annually.

Keith

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I think we need to rethink the current model. I have no answers but when your skating on margins that thin the dangers are real.


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Unless they are dragging that cultured meat through the barnyard at some point during production, and adding actual chicken poop into the petri dish to feed the culture, I am not touching it!
We all know where the real flavor of good chicken comes from.

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Originally Posted by warrior
I think we need to rethink the current model. I have no answers but when your skating on margins that thin the dangers are real.


The biggest problems are that commercial farming kills competition and bioiversity.. The bio-security at the big farms is amazing. One disease can easily wipe out an entire population with no diversity in genetics.

The commercially produced bananas are so genetically similar that there is a reasonable fear they could be entirely wiped out. Commercial hogs, meat birds and layers are also at risk.

Keith

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Originally Posted by KeithC
Originally Posted by warrior
I think we need to rethink the current model. I have no answers but when your skating on margins that thin the dangers are real.


The biggest problems are that commercial farming kills competition and bioiversity.. The bio-security at the big farms is amazing. One disease can easily wipe out an entire population with no diversity in genetics.

The commercially produced bananas are so genetically similar that there is a reasonable fear they could be entirely wiped out. Commercial hogs, meat birds and layers are also at risk.

Keith


Yup

It's already happened once to bananas. The orignal cultivar that put bananas on everyone's menu was Gros Michael aka Big Mike. Phtyophorra root rot wiped them out. Today's Cavendish while resistant to the Gros Michael strain is vulnerable to others.

It's why hundreds of thousands of birds are killed off every time a strain of bird flu goes through.


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With GMOs this process can happen much faster than in the past. I don't know if those anti meat would use GMO products as substitutes however. Sometimes weighing the decisions can be rough.
I don't think the idea of billions of animals dying is a real issue for many if there is other food available. It won't take long to depopulate domestic animals. The real concern to me is the huge amounts of vegetable and fruit by products and waste that will need to be landfilled instead of used in livestock feed. We will also not have the huge amounts of concentrated animal waste for fertilzer.

Bryce

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