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Re: Subsonic ammo [Re: Wanna Be] #7929145
08/15/23 09:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Wanna Be
Haha, not so much for the game pursued as it is for the subtlety on the land. It would be nice if it allows for multiple shots, but it’s nicer if landowners and surrounding landowners don’t hear shots ringing out through the night.


Yup, while it might be perfectly legal gunshots at night is sure to start some nasty gossip at best or visits from the guys in green at worst.


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Re: Subsonic ammo [Re: warrior] #7929148
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by Wanna Be
Haha, not so much for the game pursued as it is for the subtlety on the land. It would be nice if it allows for multiple shots, but it’s nicer if landowners and surrounding landowners don’t hear shots ringing out through the night.


Yup, while it might be perfectly legal gunshots at night is sure to start some nasty gossip at best or visits from the guys in green at worst.

Not to mention Deputies waiting on you at the gate and calls in the middle of the night to landowners.

Re: Subsonic ammo [Re: Wanna Be] #7929173
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No I have not tried that. Honestly 30 cal sub I have only shot in black out. But same heavier weight bullets and under 1100 fps gets the same result regardless name of the cal on the case. Going from memory but black out subs have 8 to 12 inches of drop at 100 yards. Vs +/- 1" or so depending on scope height of supper ammo is rainbow to me.

I read a ton looked at every test I could find then bought and loaded several combos and red neck tested them. Finally decided to stick with supper sonic except with rimfire and handguns.

Different folks like different things and have different requirements.

It like everything in life we go through stages. With me in firearms it changes. Went through the big revolver, rifle cal single shot, semi auto pistol, .22 rim fires, shotgun and various games and hunting, tactical rifle, pistol and shotgun, .long range presion. Sone I go back and forth with others only had my interest for a time.

I'm glad we don't have the destructive pigs to deal with here. Seems like big trapping pens would be the most effective way to kill the most the fastest. But shooting would be more fun.

Re: Subsonic ammo [Re: Providence Farm] #7929192
08/15/23 10:47 PM
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IF you hand load or can get them loaded = Cutting Edge Bullets. Will expand down to like 700 or 800 fps. Maybe expensive. But they shoot well subsonic and kill well

Re: Subsonic ammo [Re: Wanna Be] #7929216
08/15/23 11:43 PM
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Never done subsonic but the 338 Spectre looks interesting.

https://shootingsavvy.com/338-spectre-is-a-pig-thumper/


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Re: Subsonic ammo [Re: Wanna Be] #7929331
08/16/23 08:11 AM
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I have loaded .300 BO and .308 subsonic for hogs. The most obvious difference between sub and super sonic is the hydraulic shock . If you are looking for recovery, use super sonic, They will usually drop right there due to the shock. Useing subsonic, I have to wait for the right shot. For me that is a heart or lung shot. It will kill them dead, but you will have to do some tracking.
Also when reloading subs be very careful, The difference between a stuck bullet and 1100 fps isnt much. Shoot on paper and make sure they are going straight before putting on the can.

Re: Subsonic ammo [Re: Providence Farm] #7929340
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
No I have not tried that. Honestly 30 cal sub I have only shot in black out. But same heavier weight bullets and under 1100 fps gets the same result regardless name of the cal on the case. Going from memory but black out subs have 8 to 12 inches of drop at 100 yards. Vs +/- 1" or so depending on scope height of supper ammo is rainbow to me.

I read a ton looked at every test I could find then bought and loaded several combos and red neck tested them. Finally decided to stick with supper sonic except with rimfire and handguns.

Different folks like different things and have different requirements.

It like everything in life we go through stages. With me in firearms it changes. Went through the big revolver, rifle cal single shot, semi auto pistol, .22 rim fires, shotgun and various games and hunting, tactical rifle, pistol and shotgun, .long range presion. Sone I go back and forth with others only had my interest for a time.

I'm glad we don't have the destructive pigs to deal with here. Seems like big trapping pens would be the most effective way to kill the most the fastest. But shooting would be more fun.

Trapping works to an extent. It seems if you miss just one pig out of the sounder it becomes extremely tough from then on out. I had a spot a sounder was showing up on a regular basis. Told the manager to move the hog camera there and once they were used to it we’d move the trap. That was 2 weeks ago and they haven’t shown since. Pigs ain’t stupid. Their eyesight sucks is their only downfall. Their hearing is very good, but can be overcome. Their sense of smell is better than or equal to a coyotes it seems. They catch a molecule of human scent and they are GONE.
We trap, we’ll run dogs, and snipe any pig at any time. They seem to be nomadic. We may go 2-3 months with NO sightings or sign, then like overnight we’ll get different sounders on 3-4 cameras. Best day was 11 in the trap, dogs came that morning and caught 3 and we ended up shooting 2 the dogs spooked as they were chasing after 1 pig. So 16 pigs that morning. Two nights later, 2 different sounders on camera, lol. It is a never ending battle.

As far as playing with suppression, I’ll leave it with the larger calibers. I ordered the Banish 30 from silencer central and it can be used on anything from a .22 to a 300WIN MAG. I’ll throw in on the 5.56 and 7.62 and use it when hunting. The subsonic is just for the .308 to see what it can/will do. It’ll be a little overkill for coons and possums but don’t think for a second I won’t send it at night if I see one on the deck or over feed.

Re: Subsonic ammo [Re: warrior] #7929350
08/16/23 08:36 AM
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Originally Posted by warrior
Originally Posted by Wanna Be
Haha, not so much for the game pursued as it is for the subtlety on the land. It would be nice if it allows for multiple shots, but it’s nicer if landowners and surrounding landowners don’t hear shots ringing out through the night.


Yup, while it might be perfectly legal gunshots at night is sure to start some nasty gossip at best or visits from the guys in green at worst.


I have some property on a US Highway. Got a text last summer of a big boar hog. Jumped in the truck and took off. Ten min trip. Got over there, snuck up on him and shot one time - 11 PM. As I pulled up to the highway and got out to lock the gate - state trooper pulls up with lights on. He asked me if I heard a shot and I said yes, it was me - and produced a picture of a hog with my rifle laying across it. We got into a ten min discussion about thermal scopes and best hog calibers. Good guy.

As far as land owners, I once got a phone call from my next door neighbor - asking if I was OK. I said yes, why do you ask, and he said “well, I havent heard you shoot in three days”

Re: Subsonic ammo [Re: Wanna Be] #7929416
08/16/23 10:37 AM
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I have heard positive things about the Banish 30 but have not heard one yet. I didn't host my silencer metering event at the farm this year. I likely won't make it to the one in Georgia next Saturday either so won't hear one tell next year at the earliest.

I need to drop the Cash and have my trust adjusted and drop some form 4s in the mail. I'm thinking another SAS Arbiter .30 since I only have one of them and 5 rifles with their tomb mounts. The 36 m has my attention and can run it on 35 cal and down up to 338 lapua. I also could use more .22 lr cans for my boys.

Re: Subsonic ammo [Re: Wanna Be] #7929576
08/16/23 02:48 PM
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Well, my son took the rifle this morning. I was just just leaving the Docs when he called and told me I wasted my money. I said well it was worth a shot and he cracked up and said Dad I’m joking, but you’re going to need another box of bullets.
It started out with my son, one of his work buddies, and the pecan manager. They shot and immediately started calling folks. My son shot, his buddy shot twice, the overall manager came down and shot, the dog kennel manager shot, and a couple other guys.
One guy has a .300BO and he said his now sounds like he’s shooting without a suppressor and he’s shooting suppressed and subsonic. They quit shooting the target because the impact was so loud and started shooting into loose dirt and it was even quieter. He said you can shoot it one handed standing on one leg if you wanted…no recoil whatsoever. They were saying an air rifle is louder than the .308.
Now to get it sighted in a see what it will do on critters.

Re: Subsonic ammo [Re: Wanna Be] #7929577
08/16/23 02:52 PM
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He did call and let me listen and I immediately thought squib, lol.

Re: Subsonic ammo [Re: Wanna Be] #7929639
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I have trouble with a 10/22 suppressed with sub-sonic ammo. I can get a round or two off and then it will not cycle. Anyone else have this problem?

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Re: Subsonic ammo [Re: Wanna Be] #7929661
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The ammo I’m using is for bolt guns only. I would assume you’d have to specifically look for cycling subsonic ammo for a caliber. Then again, it may just be for the larger calibers that applies to.

Re: Subsonic ammo [Re: Wanna Be] #8139821
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Wanna Be- how's the Banish 30 treating you? Try out that subsonic 308 yet?

Re: Subsonic ammo [Re: Wanna Be] #8139902
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I use .22 lr subsonic for rodents and pests


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Re: Subsonic ammo [Re: Wanna Be] #8139910
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I have used subsonic 22s for dispatch on the trapline. It worked OK.


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Re: Subsonic ammo [Re: washxc] #8139917
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Originally Posted by washxc
Wanna Be- how's the Banish 30 treating you? Try out that subsonic 308 yet?

Got the suppressor in late Jan and I’ve been so busy with the regular ammo I haven’t even shot suppressed. I don’t even know if I have any left after my son and everyone else shot it.

As far as how I like the Banish 30…I just ordered another, lol. Wanted another to have 2 night rifles ready to go and can swap a can to a daytime rifle as well.

Re: Subsonic ammo [Re: Wanna Be] #8139960
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I hear you. I love mine, been considering ordering another as my son comes of age. I haven't tried the subsonic ammo, but regular barnes ttsx does the trick and is pleasant to shoot without ear protection in hunting situations.

Re: Subsonic ammo [Re: Wanna Be] #8139974
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I bought some 220gr 300 blackout hallow point boat tail. It was less than a dollar a round…. as soon as the come in I will test the expansion on pigs and let you know.
Edit…from freedom munition

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Re: Subsonic ammo [Re: jtg] #8139977
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Originally Posted by jtg
I have trouble with a 10/22 suppressed with sub-sonic ammo. I can get a round or two off and then it will not cycle. Anyone else have this problem?

clean your action thoroughly an if that doesn't work you'll need to swap out your action spring. I've got an integrally suppressed 10-22 I had same issues with. correct spring installed made all the difference. I feed it standard velocity hp cci or fiocchi standard velocity hp.

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