Red Wolf Reintroduction Efforts back in NC
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Well, as if it wasn't enough of a failure last time, they are now re-re-introducing the coyote hybrids in North Carolina "Under a settlement finalized Wednesday, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service will consider releasing endangered red wolves from captivity into Northeastern North Carolina annually until at least 2030. Conservation groups that sued the federal agency in 2020 see the settlement as a key step in re-establishing an endangered species that had dwindled to as few as seven wolves in the wild in recent years. There are between 32 and 34 red wolves in the wild now, according to the FWS, with 278 in captivity" Meateater Red Wolf Articlehttps://www.newsobserver.com/news/state/north-carolina/article278096327.htmlIf you are unfamiliar with this and want to know why this project is a complete failure and waste of $30,000,000 of federal funding, see link below https://nchuntandfish.com/forums/index.php?threads/red-wolf-restoration-scandal.1727/
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Re: Red Wolf Reintroduction Efforts back in NC
[Re: Buzzard]
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Yes sir
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The feds won't be happy until they make all of eastern NC
a red wolf sanctuary and prohibit hunting and trapping.
All I am gonna say U mean all of the USA
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Re: Red Wolf Reintroduction Efforts back in NC
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For what it's worth, there is a definite benefit to wolf populations in their former habitat. This does impact the trapper for certain, but this is the long game. Look to Yellowstone as an example. The wolf population has caused a significant amount of regeneration along streams and other ecosystems that if the elk/ mule deer populations stayed at the levels they once were would have never occurred. There is a benefit to this. https://www.yellowstonepark.com/things-to-do/wildlife/wolf-reintroduction-changes-ecosystem/
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Re: Red Wolf Reintroduction Efforts back in NC
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The feds won't be happy until they make all of eastern NC
a red wolf sanctuary and prohibit hunting and trapping.
All I am gonna say U mean all of the USA Where I get in trouble, can't you read ?
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Re: Red Wolf Reintroduction Efforts back in NC
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Yes sir
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For what it's worth, there is a definite benefit to wolf populations in their former habitat. This does impact the trapper for certain, but this is the long game. Look to Yellowstone as an example. The wolf population has caused a significant amount of regeneration along streams and other ecosystems that if the elk/ mule deer populations stayed at the levels they once were would have never occurred. There is a benefit to this. https://www.yellowstonepark.com/things-to-do/wildlife/wolf-reintroduction-changes-ecosystem/They don't allow hunting in Yellowstone or else the wolf wouldn't be needed
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Re: Red Wolf Reintroduction Efforts back in NC
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For what it's worth, there is a definite benefit to wolf populations in their former habitat. This does impact the trapper for certain, but this is the long game. Look to Yellowstone as an example. The wolf population has caused a significant amount of regeneration along streams and other ecosystems that if the elk/ mule deer populations stayed at the levels they once were would have never occurred. There is a benefit to this. https://www.yellowstonepark.com/things-to-do/wildlife/wolf-reintroduction-changes-ecosystem/There is no benefit to this reintroduction, red wolves were never a hardy specie, they were bred out by coyotes Time for me to exit stage left, too many ignorant people on here
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Re: Red Wolf Reintroduction Efforts back in NC
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JC, there are no red wolves. They were declared extinct in 1980. We are not talking about wolves out west, we are talking about genetically engineered super coyotes being dropped off in Eastern NC. There is no benefit to that. They will continue to interbreed with coyotes and be shot and this project will fail just like the last one.
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Re: Red Wolf Reintroduction Efforts back in NC
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JC, there are no red wolves. They were declared extinct in 1980. We are not talking about wolves out west, we are talking about genetically engineered super coyotes being dropped off in Eastern NC. There is no benefit to that. They will continue to interbreed with coyotes and be shot and this project will fail just like the last one. The major factor here is snowflakes ! Red Wolves have been extinct for a long time, not by over hunting or trapping but from interpreting with coyotes They were bred out of existence, they are gone forever ! The snowflakes don't want to believe that....but it's the truth
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Re: Red Wolf Reintroduction Efforts back in NC
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Brat, you just keep sucking me in, I need to stay out of this before Boss Hog gets prissy with me again Why ? You are 100% correct. Don't forget the ones being released are inbred too.
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Re: Red Wolf Reintroduction Efforts back in NC
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Brat, you just keep sucking me in, I need to stay out of this before Boss Hog gets prissy with me again You don't have anything to worry about as long as your replies are not mean spirited.
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Re: Red Wolf Reintroduction Efforts back in NC
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Brat, you just keep sucking me in, I need to stay out of this before Boss Hog gets prissy with me again You don't have anything to worry about as long as your replies are not mean spirited. I do get ill when it comes to reading comp, read above....I was nice but he was stupid
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Re: Red Wolf Reintroduction Efforts back in NC
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For what it's worth, there is a definite benefit to wolf populations in their former habitat. This does impact the trapper for certain, but this is the long game. Look to Yellowstone as an example. The wolf population has caused a significant amount of regeneration along streams and other ecosystems that if the elk/ mule deer populations stayed at the levels they once were would have never occurred. There is a benefit to this. https://www.yellowstonepark.com/things-to-do/wildlife/wolf-reintroduction-changes-ecosystem/OMG! That link you posted For what it's worth, there is a definite benefit to wolf populations in their former habitat. This does impact the trapper for certain, but this is the long game. Look to Yellowstone as an example. The wolf population has caused a significant amount of regeneration along streams and other ecosystems that if the elk/ mule deer populations stayed at the levels they once were would have never occurred. There is a benefit to this. https://www.yellowstonepark.com/things-to-do/wildlife/wolf-reintroduction-changes-ecosystem/LOL!
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Re: Red Wolf Reintroduction Efforts back in NC
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For what it's worth, there is a definite benefit to wolf populations in their former habitat. This does impact the trapper for certain, but this is the long game. Look to Yellowstone as an example. The wolf population has caused a significant amount of regeneration along streams and other ecosystems that if the elk/ mule deer populations stayed at the levels they once were would have never occurred. There is a benefit to this. https://www.yellowstonepark.com/things-to-do/wildlife/wolf-reintroduction-changes-ecosystem/So after reading the article a couple things stand out. Wolves kill elk to eat, but leave plenty for bears emerging from hibernation. So they kill and get a meal out of it and move on to kill again for just another meal. It’s also implied that management of a species is needed, like every sportsman doesn’t already know that. Elk needed managed, but instead of making millions by offering tags to hunters to shoot a famed elk in Yellowstone, they spent millions, which at first glance seems to have reduced elk numbers. What’s yet to be seen is how low the numbers will go and what else they’ll reduce…cattle, sheep, etc. Looks like they’re going to try the same thing in NC. I just hope they don’t roam to far South, lol. If so Swamp may start skinning “coyotes” lol.
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Re: Red Wolf Reintroduction Efforts back in NC
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JC, there are no red wolves. They were declared extinct in 1980. We are not talking about wolves out west, we are talking about genetically engineered super coyotes being dropped off in Eastern NC. There is no benefit to that. They will continue to interbreed with coyotes and be shot and this project will fail just like the last one. The major factor here is snowflakes ! Red Wolves have been extinct for a long time, not by over hunting or trapping but from interpreting with coyotes They were bred out of existence, they are gone forever ! The snowflakes don't want to believe that....but it's the truth JMO, but there never was any such thing as a red wolf. At least not as a stand alone genetically isolated species. Sure there were red colored larger than western coyote canines in the southeast but there were also black ones as well. IMO, they were just a population of canines somewhere on the gene flow between wolf and coyote and I personally do not consider those two as fully separate species since they are not genetically incompatible yet.
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