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Re: Beaver drowning rigs. [Re: backroadsarcher] #7934724
08/23/23 12:04 PM
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Can a copy of that book be purchased? I'm all in to learn new ways.


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Re: Beaver drowning rigs. [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7934848
08/23/23 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Can a copy of that book be purchased? I'm all in to learn new ways.


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Re: Beaver drowning rigs. [Re: backroadsarcher] #7935060
08/23/23 05:48 PM
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Can find it for sale on the internut.


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Re: Beaver drowning rigs. [Re: backroadsarcher] #7935163
08/23/23 07:17 PM
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Hey Shakeyjake can you post a pic of the front cover of that manual?

Re: Beaver drowning rigs. [Re: The Beav] #7935429
08/23/23 11:40 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
A 6 or 8 lb weight placed right on the trap chain as close as possible to the trap will drown any size beaver In short order. A beaver may be able to drag a cement block back to shore but If It can't keep It's head above water It's going down for the count.
We just stake In deep water with a long chain and a sash weight or a tie plate attached close to the trap. Works for me.


Beav, I am extremely interested in this method. Would you happen to have a more thorough explanation, or a pic perhaps?


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Re: Beaver drowning rigs. [Re: backroadsarcher] #7935582
08/24/23 08:04 AM
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I use railroad tie plates for weight. They are about 10 lbs a peice. 3 of them bolted together with an eye bolt or heavy 9 gauge wire to attach your drowning cable to. These dig pretty hard to a muddy or Rocky bottom. Sometimes too good where you may have to put your waders on to get them from being fetched up. I don't carry these too far obviously. The trapping pressure is very little I don't need to get too far from the road. I wrap cable, trap, and all around the weight and they stay relatively organized and tangle free.

Re: Beaver drowning rigs. [Re: Mad Scientist] #7935591
08/24/23 08:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Mad Scientist
Hey Shakeyjake can you post a pic of the front cover of that manual?

I started a thread on it on the main page. [Linked Image]
Cheapest I found it was for $300CA. It was $50 for a CD version on OFMA.
They’re coming out with volume 2 but it’s going slow.
https://trapperman.com/forum/ubbthr...and-conservation-in-na-vol-2#Post7887156
A fella in Manitoba was going to send me his but he couldn’t find it…..lol. Told him that it’s a heck of a book to give away!

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Re: Beaver drowning rigs. [Re: backroadsarcher] #7935655
08/24/23 09:47 AM
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Basically just attaching a window weight close to the trap with a long chain an setting the trap like you normally do I've used this method on far walk ins works good I use cable to make rings for the window weights then use a quick clip to attach it to the chain idk 8 inches from the trap just enough so the weight isn't right under the trap an you can bed it right

Re: Beaver drowning rigs. [Re: Keystonekiller] #7935769
08/24/23 12:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Keystonekiller
Basically just attaching a window weight close to the trap with a long chain an setting the trap like you normally do I've used this method on far walk ins works good I use cable to make rings for the window weights then use a quick clip to attach it to the chain idk 8 inches from the trap just enough so the weight isn't right under the trap an you can bed it right


That about covers how I use the sash weight or tie plate. With this set up the deep end weight or staking system Isn't so critical. If the beaver can't swim It can't pull your deep end system.
In rocky areas I cut some sections of chicken wire. They can be about 3foot square. Fold them up and place in your back pack. Get to your location unfold and pile on the rocks. Then fold In the four corners and wire It shut attach to drowning system and your good to go.
You can leave the whole deal there If you plan On trapping that area again or dump the rocks and take the wire home.


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Re: Beaver drowning rigs. [Re: backroadsarcher] #7935856
08/24/23 02:40 PM
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Re: Beaver drowning rigs. [Re: backroadsarcher] #7936224
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Re: Beaver drowning rigs. [Re: backroadsarcher] #7936486
08/25/23 10:50 AM
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Ontario Canada regs mandate 4' of water and at least 35#'s of weight on drowners
Using a stake to anchor cable/wire/chain is good if you can harvest it at site,then you only need to carry wire and trap in with wire cutters and brush axe.Still should have 4' of water at deep end minimum in case of rear foot catch and big beaver who might tread watr for a while and be able to reach air.

Re: Beaver drowning rigs. [Re: backroadsarcher] #7936711
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With 10lbs of weight near the trap a beaver won't be treading water very long. They tire out pretty fast and you can drown them In even 2' of water. But of course deeper Is better. But I hate to pass up a hot location due to water depth.


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Re: Beaver drowning rigs. [Re: The Beav] #7936833
08/25/23 06:46 PM
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Originally Posted by The Beav
With 10lbs of weight near the trap a beaver won't be treading water very long. They tire out pretty fast and you can drown them In even 2' of water. But of course deeper Is better. But I hate to pass up a hot location due to water depth.



Would have to be front foot catch in 2’ of water, I don’t think that would work for back foot?


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Re: Beaver drowning rigs. [Re: Average Joe] #7936892
08/25/23 07:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Average Joe
Originally Posted by The Beav
With 10lbs of weight near the trap a beaver won't be treading water very long. They tire out pretty fast and you can drown them In even 2' of water. But of course deeper Is better. But I hate to pass up a hot location due to water depth.



Would have to be front foot catch in 2’ of water, I don’t think that would work for back foot?

They don't paddle with their front feet.

Re: Beaver drowning rigs. [Re: backroadsarcher] #7937045
08/25/23 10:46 PM
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Good point. Can they stand up though, balance on back feet and tail enough to keep their head above water? I’ve passed up a lot of potential sets for being less than 4’ deep, wondering now if I’m being overly cautious.


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Re: Beaver drowning rigs. [Re: Average Joe] #7937084
08/26/23 12:02 AM
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Originally Posted by Average Joe
Good point. Can they stand up though, balance on back feet and tail enough to keep their head above water? I’ve passed up a lot of potential sets for being less than 4’ deep, wondering now if I’m being overly cautious.

I wouldn't pass on sets with that deep on water. Shorten your chains so there isn't much more than a couple links above your drowner. It takes a really big beaver to keep his head above water in 4 foot of water.

Re: Beaver drowning rigs. [Re: backroadsarcher] #7937194
08/26/23 08:26 AM
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The weight just wears them out and they can't keep their head above water.


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Re: Beaver drowning rigs. [Re: backroadsarcher] #7940407
08/30/23 03:07 PM
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Could someone please post a link to the fiberglass rods they are talking about. I can't find exactly what I think you are talking about.

Re: Beaver drowning rigs. [Re: backroadsarcher] #7940437
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I don't use any drowning rods or wire. Just about 10' of chain staked In deep water.


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