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Re: 4 wheel drive trucks [Re: 20scout] #7943913
09/04/23 03:20 PM
09/04/23 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by 20scout
I prefer 4wd but my brother likes a truck with posi traction in 2 wd. Regardless good tires are a must!



My little trucks have posi and 4WD they do get around in low gear.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

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Re: 4 wheel drive trucks [Re: danny clifton] #7943919
09/04/23 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
sometimes dirty d there aint no road. or just a track. not all 4wd is for a slick road


driven many an hour on what are known as logging roads, just 2 ruts thru the woods/bush. All with 2wd vehicles. One thing that has gotten lost I think is with the prevalence of 4wd and awd vehicles many have never learned how to drive in bad conditions
Just like manual transmissions, when they were common many that drove them learned their advantages and how one could do things that a auto box can't do. That is lost in the vast majority of people today.

Re: 4 wheel drive trucks [Re: WI Outdoors] #7943934
09/04/23 03:47 PM
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its all about traction. My Dad was a drywall contractor. He had a 2 different 1 ton trucks that had a small enclosed box on the back, about 6ft wide x 8ft long x 5 1/2 ft tall. Inside this was contained 2) 50 gallon pots for paint, a 2 cylinder cast iron Wisconsin engine to run a large air compressor, a large (maybe 75 gallon) air tank and maybe 100ft of hose along with assorted tools and supplies for spraying texture and paint on finished drywall. All together it was approx 2500- 4000lbs depending. His trucks were both manual transmissions, the old 4 speed with granny gear, 2wd with dual rear tires. These trucks never got stuck when driving in the mud that is typical of a new construction site. I have seen him pull many a plumber and electrician out of the mud when their 4wd trucks got stuck. Then after pulling them out he'd drive right in in the same spot and we'd go to work. The moral of the story is traction and being able to use it, with all the weight, low first gear and dual rear tires it was more than your run of the mill 4wd truck had.

Re: 4 wheel drive trucks [Re: WI Outdoors] #7943964
09/04/23 04:42 PM
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No! In Wisonsin you need 4x4 were I live . Fl is good for 2x4

Re: 4 wheel drive trucks [Re: WI Outdoors] #7943972
09/04/23 04:51 PM
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You guys don't understand the thread.

Re: 4 wheel drive trucks [Re: Law Dog] #7943981
09/04/23 05:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Law Dog
Tacoma with crawl control, locking rear end but it only came in auto that year Id prefer a manual but that was not a choice with crawl control. I had to get a lot of tech garbage that I could have done without but that all came in the Off Road package. I have a pad that charges a cellphone the kind I never had yet, I have 110 in the truck bed that I might make coffee back there someday just never have yet. LOL

The truck came with 6 manuals thicker then the Bible I would of been OK with the standard model trucks but I really use 4 WD in the high country in the spring to get around things change in a minute out there. The sad part was all them fancy packages still come with highway tires marked M/S that have no business in mud or snow.


… same here… but the thing will get you where you need to go


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Re: 4 wheel drive trucks [Re: WI Outdoors] #7943991
09/04/23 05:14 PM
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I have both. I prefer manual lock. I've had electrical and vacuum line problems in the past with various auto lock systems. The problem only reveals itself at the critical time when you need 4x4 most desperately.


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Re: 4 wheel drive trucks [Re: WI Outdoors] #7944012
09/04/23 05:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Mando
Not sure you guys get what I'm talking about. Push button four wheek drive. Some have auto and lock, some just have lock. Wheel drive is hard on the drive train. That's why I like the auto feature so when the roads are snowy and slushy, it only engages when the tires slip.


I didn't even know that was a thing.

My newest 4WD is a 2008. None of them have had auto lock but all of them have been able to activate 4WD from inside the vehicle going back to 87. The 87 was a Dodge Ram 50 with spring-loaded "auto hubs" you activated with a shift lever inside. To deactivate you used the shift lever and had to reverse your direction of travel for about five feet.

I like being able to easily turn 4WD on when needed and back off again. Stopping and getting out to lock hubs is a PITA.


Eh...wot?

Re: 4 wheel drive trucks [Re: WI Outdoors] #7944023
09/04/23 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Mando
You guys don't understand the thread.

I noticed…lol!
Up here I never use it. When driving through 3” of snow it’ll keep kicking in and out burning out the case. I tried it in town once at an icy stop sign and it sure works. Kicked in almost instantly. Icy/snowy roads, it’s in 4 full time, that’s what I buy them for. Never had problems. These guys look pretty stupid upside down in the ditch with a 4WD still in 2. They don’t wanna wreck it, saving the 4x4 for when they really need it.

My 04 Silverado had auto 4

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Re: 4 wheel drive trucks [Re: WI Outdoors] #7944043
09/04/23 06:01 PM
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we understand you use the (auto) setting on your vehicle. no I don't need the option or a computer to kik my 4x4 on and off while going down the Rd.....again it's an option for soccer moms

Re: 4 wheel drive trucks [Re: WI Outdoors] #7944237
09/04/23 09:19 PM
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Re: 4 wheel drive trucks [Re: Flint Hill fur] #7944242
09/04/23 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Flint Hill fur
we understand you use the (auto) setting on your vehicle. no I don't need the option or a computer to kik my 4x4 on and off while going down the Rd.....again it's an option for soccer moms

Lol. Not sure of many newer trucks that don't have push button.at least the three American brand ones. Chevy has the custom, but that's a stripped down trim level.

Re: 4 wheel drive trucks [Re: WI Outdoors] #7944250
09/04/23 09:33 PM
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Don’t have a problem with fulltime 4WD. In the last 50 years I have had it all.

My favorite was a 72 IH Scout with auto hubs. Could dial free, auto, or lock. Ordered a 78 Bronco and asked Ford about it. Their price back then was $750. They were going to send my vehicle across town in Cleveland to a shop to have the factory hubs removed and the 3-Position hubs installed. In other words, I was paying for two sets of hubs. Told them no thank you.

I like the electronic hubs. Never torn any up.

Re: 4 wheel drive trucks [Re: danny clifton] #7944262
09/04/23 09:45 PM
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Originally Posted by danny clifton
sometimes dirty d there aint no road. or just a track. not all 4wd is for a slick road



True. And my 2wd spins and won't go up inclined in wet grass. Some folks have very different experiences than I do.

Re: 4 wheel drive trucks [Re: WI Outdoors] #7944271
09/04/23 10:00 PM
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Not sure how many vehicles come with the option of auto 4x4. The only vehicle I ever owned with that option was my wife had a Tahoe one time with it. We didn’t need 4 wheel drive in that thing anyway. I have owned 4x4 fords and Toyota since and they don’t have that option.

Re: 4 wheel drive trucks [Re: Dirty D] #7944375
09/05/23 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirty D
yes, in fact I would prefer one without. for snow and ice the tires are more important than 4wd. 4wd only helps in getting you moving and is of no use once your moving and in fact is a hindrance in turning and of no help in stopping.
While really good winter tires will actually improve your stopping distances on ice over all season or mud/snow tires.
if one doesn't drive in really rough off road situations then 4wd is not needed.
I'll take a front wheel drive car with good quality winter tires (blizzaks or equiv.) over a 4wd with the tires that come on them from the factory.
Even better than 4wd is 2wd with about 500-1000lbs in the box and chains for the really bad conditions.


I have had both and without a doubt put alot more miles on 2wd trucks.
The other advantages of 2wd are better gas mileage, cheaper to buy and maintain and easier on tires and all other things being equal can haul and pull more.
4wd has advantage on only a handful of days over a years time so as far as I'm concerned its advantage does not beat its disadvantages.

I was always of the mindset that when in 4 wheel drive all tires stopped because of the driveshaft connection thus making braking more responsive? Maybe Ive been wrong all thses years thinking that?

Re: 4 wheel drive trucks [Re: lumberjack391] #7944389
09/05/23 05:21 AM
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Originally Posted by lumberjack391
Originally Posted by Dirty D
yes, in fact I would prefer one without. for snow and ice the tires are more important than 4wd. 4wd only helps in getting you moving and is of no use once your moving and in fact is a hindrance in turning and of no help in stopping.
While really good winter tires will actually improve your stopping distances on ice over all season or mud/snow tires.
if one doesn't drive in really rough off road situations then 4wd is not needed.
I'll take a front wheel drive car with good quality winter tires (blizzaks or equiv.) over a 4wd with the tires that come on them from the factory.
Even better than 4wd is 2wd with about 500-1000lbs in the box and chains for the really bad conditions.


I have had both and without a doubt put alot more miles on 2wd trucks.
The other advantages of 2wd are better gas mileage, cheaper to buy and maintain and easier on tires and all other things being equal can haul and pull more.
4wd has advantage on only a handful of days over a years time so as far as I'm concerned its advantage does not beat its disadvantages.

I was always of the mindset that when in 4 wheel drive all tires stopped because of the driveshaft connection thus making braking more responsive? Maybe Ive been wrong all thses years thinking that?

Correct. You are wrong. Lol. 4 wheel isn't always locked either.

Re: 4 wheel drive trucks [Re: WI Outdoors] #7944391
09/05/23 05:35 AM
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if you trap where roads are just trails 4wd is a big advantage


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Re: 4 wheel drive trucks [Re: WI Outdoors] #7944437
09/05/23 07:26 AM
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"Correct. You are wrong. Lol. 4 wheel isn't always locked either." Well I didf say "when in 4wd".

Re: 4 wheel drive trucks [Re: WI Outdoors] #7944462
09/05/23 08:21 AM
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Had auto locking hubs and got rid of them installed warn manual locking just lock em in before getting into situations where needed

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