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Re: Auto strike [Re: Guss] #7951909
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Not all union fight for there members!

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Originally Posted by trapdog1
Originally Posted by iron rob
A quick google search (cbs news) says the average wage for uaw member is $28 an hour. So $56,000 per year is too much?

Want more money? Go find a job that pays better.


Why? When the unions and their members can just demand more crap they have not earned. Joe Biden is going to help the lazy bums get it.

I am not a doom and gloomist, but so called conservatives whining about corporate America and peddling and/or buying into class warfare are the biggest threat to this country.

I wish the "conservatives" who support unions, big government and entitlements (welfare) would have just stayed democrats.

Re: Auto strike [Re: Guss] #7951940
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Imagine if you took your dues from day one and put that in a retirement accoint for 25 years with an annual return of 8%. Figure that out and that's what it's costing you just to pay someone to be able to work a union job. That's a lot of money.


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Re: Auto strike [Re: Guss] #7951950
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Didn't read all the posts just enough to see a lot on here truly believe what msm tells them to believe


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Re: Auto strike [Re: Guss] #7951955
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Define "earned".

Re: Auto strike [Re: Guss] #7951957
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I 100 percent support the UAW !

Re: Auto strike [Re: Guss] #7951961
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Just my thoughts…I joined the Union at the urging of a management when I hired on. I was in the Union for probably 10yrs and was seeing us lose a little something each contract. Our local President had a beef with me and actually tried throwing me under the bus. Luckily management saw right through his BS. I got out after that and stayed out probably 10+ years.
It wasn’t until I got a new title and ended up working with the now Union president that I joined up for a second time. This guy is as “right” as it gets. Yes the upper management of the Union puts out “democrats” but our local preaches to think for yourself and do your own research…then vote Republican.
Yes I make what I consider good money with “still good” benefits. My 401K looks good as does my pension.
What’s different with my company is every manager encourages every employee to join the Union.

Re: Auto strike [Re: upstateNY] #7951969
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Originally Posted by upstateNY
Originally Posted by rex123
Well at least you admit he can count on your vote.

I voted for him 12 times in the last election.How did you think he got in?Sorry you couldn't pass the drug test when you applied for that union job.Maybe you should study harder next time. grin

Sounds like a democrat. laugh

Re: Auto strike [Re: iron rob] #7951972
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Originally Posted by iron rob
In the last 3 years new vehicle prices have increased an average of 30% yet people continue to buy them. The CEO’s salaries have increased 40%. I would agree the workers are paid well for assembly line work but their wages have little effect on the price of vehicles, the big 3 are making billions in profits. If you think moving the jobs to Mexico will lower prices your wrong. It surprises me how many people on here are on the side of corporate greed instead of middle class working people.



Last i looked a corporation is trying to make a profit by building a product, no where does it say they need to cut profits to pay employees. Don't pay a wage good enough equals no workers and no product and then no profit. Pay too much profit goes down and stock holders pull their money meaning company has less operation monies. Unions think they deserve something more then they earn and unfortunately the laws in place prevent companies from breaking unions and strikes.

Re: Auto strike [Re: Guss] #7951990
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If anybody thinks the price of a new car will go down if the workers make less, they are living in a dream world. As long as people pay exorbitant prices for the product, the price will stay high. Doesn't matter if the worker makes $2 an hour or $28 an hour.

Re: Auto strike [Re: Guss] #7952013
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Union are money leaches they can never get enough dues.

Re: Auto strike [Re: Guss] #7952055
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Curious why when CEOs ask for huge salaries and bonuses, they've "earned" it. However, when the rank and file ask for more money, they haven't "earned" it.

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Working on a auto line is not a skilled trade you could get the Crack heads in Detroit train them and they could do the same work for less.

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Originally Posted by Guss
Working on a auto line is not a skilled trade you could get the Crack heads in Detroit train them and they could do the same work for less.

Nope they have to show up everyday that’s where you are wrong My son in law owns a union paint company in Missouri and offers 6 bucks a hour over scale and can’t get anyone to show up , so there goes the bum theory right out the door .

Re: Auto strike [Re: WI Outdoors] #7952082
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Originally Posted by Mando
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Curious why when CEOs ask for huge salaries and bonuses, they've "earned" it. However, when the rank and file ask for more money, they haven't "earned" it.

"Life isn't fair. It never was, it's not now, and it never will be."


My question isn't about being fair. Just wonder why some think it's okay for an executive to get all they can, but it is somehow immoral if the regular Joe tries the same thing.

Re: Auto strike [Re: Guss] #7952083
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Originally Posted by Guss
Working on a auto line is not a skilled trade you could get the Crack heads in Detroit train them and they could do the same work for less.


Since many corporations and companies lose money every year, doesn't appear that CEO is an overly skilled position either. Many executives get bonuses and raises every year, even though their companies have losses.

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See if they replace you when you go on vacation, that’s all you need to know. Without product to sell game over for all employees.
One question if the management is super smart and the assembly line jobs can be ran by a monkey (according to some ) then why aren’t the CEO’s and VP’s out there kicking out cars , easy answer they can’t or won’t do the job .
Strikes are no good for any employee and my one beef with a union is if there is a strike going on the leaders don’t get paid also.

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what they get is way over 56 thousand a year. medical, vacations ,pension, and 401k.

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I make twice that with OT and all the other benefits

Re: Auto strike [Re: BandB] #7952104
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Originally Posted by BandB
Originally Posted by Guss
Working on a auto line is not a skilled trade you could get the Crack heads in Detroit train them and they could do the same work for less.


Since many corporations and companies lose money every year, doesn't appear that CEO is an overly skilled position either. Many executives get bonuses and raises every year, even though their companies have losses.

I stand by my statement what skill do they possess that says there worth 50 pluses a hour? Showing up everyday is not one! That's just keeping your job.

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