No Profanity *** No Flaming *** No Advertising *** No Anti Trappers ***NO POLITICS
No Non-Target Catches *** No Links to Anti-trapping Sites *** No Avoiding Profanity Filter


Home~Trap Talk~ADC Forum~Trap Shed~Wilderness Trapping~International Trappers~Fur Handling

Auction Forum~Trapper Tips~Links~Gallery~Basic Sets~Convention Calendar~Chat~ Trap Collecting Forum

Trapper's Humor~Strictly Trapping~Fur Buyers Directory~Mugshots~Fur Sale Directory~Wildcrafting~The Pen and Quill

Trapper's Tales~Words From The Past~Legends~Archives~Kids Forum~Lure Formulators Forum~ Fermenter's Forum


~~~ Dobbins' Products Catalog ~~~


Minnesota Trapline Products
Please support our sponsor for the Trappers Talk Page - Minnesota Trapline Products


Print Thread
Hop To
Page 1 of 2 1 2
California cutting palm trees to save the planet #7965026
10/05/23 11:25 AM
10/05/23 11:25 AM
Joined: Feb 2012
Northwest, Alabama
O
Old Relic Offline OP
trapper
Old Relic  Offline OP
trapper
O

Joined: Feb 2012
Northwest, Alabama
Rosemead California cutting 11,000 palm trees claiming to remove the fire hazard near powerlines. San Diego is cutting palm trees because they don't provide enough shade. Enviro wackos want all non native Palms cut. Court rules that residents aren't protected by property owner rights and the municipalities can cut them down. Thank God that I don't live in California.


A Nation of Sheep - Breeds a Government of Wolves!
Re: California cutting palm trees to save the planet [Re: Old Relic] #7965031
10/05/23 11:43 AM
10/05/23 11:43 AM
Joined: Dec 2013
Northern MN
O
Osky Offline
trapper
Osky  Offline
trapper
O

Joined: Dec 2013
Northern MN
Clearing lanes for power lines I understand no matter what the tree or vegetation. The rest not so much.

Osky



www.SureDockusa.com
“ I said I don’t have much use for traps these days, never said I didn’t know how to use them.”
Re: California cutting palm trees to save the planet [Re: Old Relic] #7965037
10/05/23 11:54 AM
10/05/23 11:54 AM
Joined: May 2018
SW Georgia
W
Wanna Be Offline
trapper
Wanna Be  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: May 2018
SW Georgia
They clear power lines right of ways down here in the South too. Doesn’t matter whose property they run through.

Re: California cutting palm trees to save the planet [Re: Old Relic] #7965055
10/05/23 12:17 PM
10/05/23 12:17 PM
Joined: Apr 2022
Wisconsin
G
Guss Offline
trapper
Guss  Offline
trapper
G

Joined: Apr 2022
Wisconsin
That's another stupid thing .

Re: California cutting palm trees to save the planet [Re: Old Relic] #7965075
10/05/23 01:01 PM
10/05/23 01:01 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Georgia
warrior Offline
trapper
warrior  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2007
Georgia
And non natives often cause problems as well.


[Linked Image]
Re: California cutting palm trees to save the planet [Re: Wanna Be] #7965136
10/05/23 02:42 PM
10/05/23 02:42 PM
Joined: Apr 2009
South Ga - Almost Florida
Swamp Wolf Offline
trapper
Swamp Wolf  Offline
trapper

Joined: Apr 2009
South Ga - Almost Florida
Originally Posted by Wanna Be
They clear power lines right of ways down here in the South too. Doesn’t matter whose property they run through.


Yep^^^
Power companies have a right of way easement. Can keep it clear. That's not just in California...that's in all 50 states.

Last edited by Swamp Wolf; 10/05/23 02:42 PM.

Thank God For Your Blessings!
Never Half-Arse Anything!

Resource Protection Service

Re: California cutting palm trees to save the planet [Re: Old Relic] #7965145
10/05/23 03:10 PM
10/05/23 03:10 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Central, SD
Law Dog Offline
trapper
Law Dog  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2010
Central, SD
Cali mismanages their forest because they are dependent on that federal money they get for disaster relief it sure seems like that.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: California cutting palm trees to save the planet [Re: Old Relic] #7965170
10/05/23 03:49 PM
10/05/23 03:49 PM
Joined: Dec 2022
illinois
J
jalstat Offline
trapper
jalstat  Offline
trapper
J

Joined: Dec 2022
illinois
Yep cheaper to keep them clean in the long run . They learned a lesson in 2006 ice storm here

Re: California cutting palm trees to save the planet [Re: jalstat] #7965181
10/05/23 04:18 PM
10/05/23 04:18 PM
Joined: Jan 2007
Georgia
warrior Offline
trapper
warrior  Offline
trapper

Joined: Jan 2007
Georgia
Originally Posted by jalstat
Yep cheaper to keep them clean in the long run . They learned a lesson in 2006 ice storm here


It's always forgotten. After an ice storm down here folks spend the next six months cutting back pines away from the house but years later when the next ice storm hits the trees have grown back.

At least Georgia Power doesn't forget, they cut along the lines every year.


[Linked Image]
Re: California cutting palm trees to save the planet [Re: Old Relic] #7965190
10/05/23 04:43 PM
10/05/23 04:43 PM
Joined: Aug 2010
Asheville, NC
C
charles Offline
trapper
charles  Offline
trapper
C

Joined: Aug 2010
Asheville, NC
Called an easement.

Re: California cutting palm trees to save the planet [Re: Old Relic] #7965194
10/05/23 04:52 PM
10/05/23 04:52 PM
Joined: Feb 2007
Washington State
H
humptulips Online content
trapper
humptulips  Online Content
trapper
H

Joined: Feb 2007
Washington State
Most of the powerlines here do not have an easement. They have to ask permission to cut trees on your property and even pay for the trees if they want them cut. They received my permission to cut a few small trees this year. A friend had some larger trees cut and received a check for about $12,000.

Re: California cutting palm trees to save the planet [Re: Old Relic] #7965206
10/05/23 05:35 PM
10/05/23 05:35 PM
Joined: Dec 2014
Tug Hill, NY
S
Squash Offline
trapper
Squash  Offline
trapper
S

Joined: Dec 2014
Tug Hill, NY
And here in the northeast multinational and foreign companies are buying up hundreds of thousands of acres of timberland to not cut the trees, but to sell carbon offsets to save the planet
And destroy the local forest industry.

Bluesource has purchase 52,000 acres in NY and 146,000 acres in NH
and another Japanese company just purchased 116,000 acres in NY’s Adirondack region. All to sell carbon offsets and not harvest timber.

Selling carbon offsets allows multinational companies to NOT have to control their emissions at the expense of poorer local communities.

Last edited by Squash; 10/05/23 05:37 PM.
Re: California cutting palm trees to save the planet [Re: Old Relic] #7965225
10/05/23 06:01 PM
10/05/23 06:01 PM
Joined: May 2009
Champaign County, Ohio.
K
KeithC Offline
trapper
KeithC  Offline
trapper
K

Joined: May 2009
Champaign County, Ohio.
I am sure that in most cases, lumber locks up carbon longer than trees rotting on the forest floor or burning in a forest fire.

Keith

Re: California cutting palm trees to save the planet [Re: KeithC] #7965242
10/05/23 06:35 PM
10/05/23 06:35 PM
Joined: Dec 2014
Tug Hill, NY
S
Squash Offline
trapper
Squash  Offline
trapper
S

Joined: Dec 2014
Tug Hill, NY
Originally Posted by KeithC
I am sure that in most cases, lumber locks up carbon longer than trees rotting on the forest floor or burning in a forest fire.

Keith


True, but selling offsets is about making carbon brokers rich, while fooling climate change fanatics that it is reducing carbon emissions.

Last edited by Squash; 10/05/23 06:38 PM.
Re: California cutting palm trees to save the planet [Re: Squash] #7965247
10/05/23 06:44 PM
10/05/23 06:44 PM
Joined: May 2009
Champaign County, Ohio.
K
KeithC Offline
trapper
KeithC  Offline
trapper
K

Joined: May 2009
Champaign County, Ohio.
Originally Posted by Squash
Originally Posted by KeithC
I am sure that in most cases, lumber locks up carbon longer than trees rotting on the forest floor or burning in a forest fire.

Keith


True, but selling offsets is about making carbon brokers rich, while fooling climate change fanatics that it is reducing carbon emissions.


The left is all about appearances and feelings. Their beliefs show a shocking naivety. They are all into futile gestures, rather than actual changes for the better.

Keith

Re: California cutting palm trees to save the planet [Re: Old Relic] #7965296
10/05/23 07:31 PM
10/05/23 07:31 PM
Joined: Dec 2010
Central, SD
Law Dog Offline
trapper
Law Dog  Offline
trapper

Joined: Dec 2010
Central, SD
The Southern end of Cali will be fenced in some day in the future like the zoo it already is.


Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!

Jerry Herbst
Re: California cutting palm trees to save the planet [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7965299
10/05/23 07:36 PM
10/05/23 07:36 PM
Joined: May 2019
NE NM / Upstate NY
Fireplug Offline
trapper
Fireplug  Offline
trapper

Joined: May 2019
NE NM / Upstate NY
Just got my work property power lines cleared - had to use a tracked boom to go up and down the ravines here. And they just kept heading South onto the neighbors property.....

Re: California cutting palm trees to save the planet [Re: humptulips] #7965306
10/05/23 07:44 PM
10/05/23 07:44 PM
Joined: May 2018
SW Georgia
W
Wanna Be Offline
trapper
Wanna Be  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: May 2018
SW Georgia
Originally Posted by humptulips
Most of the powerlines here do not have an easement. They have to ask permission to cut trees on your property and even pay for the trees if they want them cut. They received my permission to cut a few small trees this year. A friend had some larger trees cut and received a check for about $12,000.

Well down here we like our AC, so anything to keep limbs and trees off the lines during inclement weather is much appreciated.

Re: California cutting palm trees to save the planet [Re: Squash] #7965309
10/05/23 07:47 PM
10/05/23 07:47 PM
Joined: May 2018
SW Georgia
W
Wanna Be Offline
trapper
Wanna Be  Offline
trapper
W

Joined: May 2018
SW Georgia
Originally Posted by Squash
And here in the northeast multinational and foreign companies are buying up hundreds of thousands of acres of timberland to not cut the trees, but to sell carbon offsets to save the planet
And destroy the local forest industry.

Bluesource has purchase 52,000 acres in NY and 146,000 acres in NH
and another Japanese company just purchased 116,000 acres in NY’s Adirondack region. All to sell carbon offsets and not harvest timber.

Selling carbon offsets allows multinational companies to NOT have to control their emissions at the expense of poorer local communities.

We have a guy on the property right now doing a survey for carbon storage. The owner agreed for them to come out and see if it’ll pay more vs cutting timber. If it does I think he’ll sign a contract stating no trees will be cut for a certain amount of time. I seriously doubt they’ll beat the price of selling trees though.

Re: California cutting palm trees to save the planet [Re: Wanna Be] #7965381
10/05/23 09:03 PM
10/05/23 09:03 PM
Joined: Mar 2014
Ontario, Canada
S
sweetwilliam Offline
trapper
sweetwilliam  Offline
trapper
S

Joined: Mar 2014
Ontario, Canada
Wanabe you need to look into that in detail you are only able to sell half of the projected growth and if you over sell their are penalties and payments to be paid back. You need a fri inventory for the forest. On a plot survey of established plots to get the information you need. Everything is documented dead wood and all. The company I trap for just established 300 permanent plots on their land this summer. They will be verified by another company before they can start selling credits and be redone in 5 years to get growth results.

Page 1 of 2 1 2
Previous Thread
Index
Next Thread