Re: Just pay more!
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
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10/13/23 12:58 PM
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DaveP
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I keep hearing this when I tell people I can't find employees "just pay more". This week I tried to Hire a contract tree climber, he told me $100 hour for the first 3 hours and $75 a hour after 3 hours. I promised him 4 days this week, it's expensive but I really need the help. He no called no showed, I did all the climbing and we fell further behind.
Paying more means today's young men just work less. If I say anymore about today's work force I'll catch a ban. It's just disgusting. Anyone else seeing these issues still? Covid or rather the response to it seems to have ruined an entire generation. It's not limited to one generation, I see slackers of all ages!
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Re: Just pay more!
[Re: WI Outdoors]
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10/13/23 08:34 PM
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trapperkeck
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I guess their smarter than me. They figured it out. I work to many hours, show up every day and early rather than on time. Anyone have any ideas what I'm doing wrong? Lol Well, apparently, you're not working for Donnersurvivor. I wish I hadn't beat myself up so much as a young feller, I could be making bank now!
"The voice of reason!"
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Re: Just pay more!
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
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10/13/23 08:54 PM
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Jurassic Park
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To be fair, who really wants to work 8 hours a day 5 days a week? Not the life I want to live.
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Re: Just pay more!
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10/13/23 08:56 PM
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trapperkeck
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To be fair, who really wants to work 8 hours a day 5 days a week? Not the life I want to live. You wouldn't make a very good trapper. ![laugh laugh](/forum/images/graemlins/default/laugh.gif)
"The voice of reason!"
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Re: Just pay more!
[Re: Donnersurvivor]
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10/13/23 09:04 PM
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It just comes down to the way you were raised. Its across all generations.
Unfortunately, now there are just more kids out there that did not grow up having chores, having discipline, or having to have/keep jobs in Highschool and/or college.
A good work ethic is taught, I don't think anyone is born with it.
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Re: Just pay more!
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10/13/23 11:18 PM
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People are changing their paradigms and priorities when it comes to work, I don't see anything changing it outside of major upheaval.
"Gold is money, everything else is just credit" JP Morgan
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Re: Just pay more!
[Re: Chancey]
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10/14/23 06:35 AM
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DaveP
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It just comes down to the way you were raised. Its across all generations.
Unfortunately, now there are just more kids out there that did not grow up having chores, having discipline, or having to have/keep jobs in Highschool and/or college.
A good work ethic is taught, I don't think anyone is born with it. I don't know, I've got one lazy one. Have seen it in a number of families.
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Re: Just pay more!
[Re: Badger23]
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10/14/23 07:07 AM
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Not just young people. I changed jobs last year to about the best paying place around here. They can't find much help either. I won't mention the name but I made 30k more in my first year there than my best year at my previous job. That's mostly do to ot and yes I make quite a bit more an hour too. I'm not forced on most of the ot but take it anyway. Just baffles me how many young and middle age people don't want to work any ot. The older ones I can understand if they don't need it or want it. The latest hire started last Thursday, took a personal day on Friday, called in sick Monday and Tuesday, worked Wednesday and Thursday and left after 4 hours last night and said she was sick. Outstanding. Maybe she'll work out but it doesn't look good. I'll be quiet now, I get a bit grumpy and tend to not be the most popular guy because I guess I just don't understand. It does tend to make me want to join in but I havent been able to do it yet. Stupid work ethic gets in the way. Funny thing, current job situation DOES create opportunity for those willing to hustle. One of my kids would grab an extra 12 hour shift a month when they were offering double time PLUS $85/ hour. Said it covered his rent and car note for the month. ( so JUST PAY MORE does work, lol) Another changed careers but still grabs the occasional weekend or holiday at her old job, rainy day fund, plus she maintains her certs.
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Re: Just pay more!
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10/14/23 07:14 AM
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I guess their smarter than me. They figured it out. I work to many hours, show up every day and early rather than on time. Anyone have any ideas what I'm doing wrong? Lol LOL, guy I hired about 10 years ago once said, " This is the only place I ever worked where I'm 10 minutes early and feel.like I'm late!"
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