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Re: union leader
[Re: rex123]
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I was yelling at you because of your Biden support I thought you were like him deaf. So you are saying what you say can't be taken for what it is because you are a liberal or a liar? Sad just sad.   If your talking about his joking post saying he voted for Biden 12 time  and didn't  know it was a joke that I would say is sad.     If it's something  else your talking about just ignore me but its difficult  to know what you're  responding  to when you don't quote it.  
 
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Re: union leader
[Re: jalstat]
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PF if your place is anything like the brewery teamsters most of these folks are conservatives and that’s how they vote just because the union leadership tries to tell its rank and file how to vote doesn’t mean that’s what they do that’s as ridiculous as saying non union people always vote conservative we all know that’s bs.     PF you also know that most of the CEO’s in the country supported Biden and they aren’t union so it’s ridiculous that people point fingers at us union workers and claim that they know how we think . I’m like you I get tired of people trying to shame me for what I or you have done for a living and if anyone has noticed me and PF never criticize a man or woman’s occupation  ^^^^This^^^^   I retired after 30 years in a union.  First 10 years non union,  then 30 union.  To me it is a workers guild, not a political philosophy or  a way of life.   I never paid any attention to their nonsense about how I should vote.  They never had my policital proxy.   FACT:  IBEW was started by Republicans.  Of course that changed.  
 
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Re: union leader
[Re: jalstat]
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PF if your place is anything like the brewery teamsters most of these folks are conservatives and that’s how they vote just because the union leadership tries to tell its rank and file how to vote doesn’t mean that’s what they do that’s as ridiculous as saying non union people always vote conservative we all know that’s bs.     PF you also know that most of the CEO’s in the country supported Biden and they aren’t union so it’s ridiculous that people point fingers at us union workers and claim that they know how we think . I’m like you I get tired of people trying to shame me for what I or you have done for a living and if anyone has noticed me and PF never criticize a man or woman’s occupation   Yes there is quit a lot of Trump stickers on hard hats lu ch boxes and painted on scrap tube around the plant.   Infact I called the hall out in one of the few meetings I went to when they were pushing support  for Hillary. I pointed out her policies  would be bad for business  directly for our plant.       Funny hou the guy running the meeting could not dispute   the facts figures and numbers I layed out.  I only got a mumbled  response and they moved on to other things.      No one in attendance  questioned my numbers   told me to sit down. Infact several backed me up.      Yes there are a few die hard true blue democrats  in the plant but other than  the dikes,  and ethnic voting block they are very few.     
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Re: union leader
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I was yelling at you because of your Biden support I thought you were like him deaf. So you are saying what you say can't be taken for what it is because you are a liberal or a liar? Sad just sad. Don't you have some raccoons to go BBQ.  
 
  
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Re: union leader
[Re: rex123]
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We are eating high tonight .Were having  possum. lol Sweet taters go good with that  
 
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Re: union leader
[Re: jalstat]
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I’m going to some it up like my dad always said and he was self employed, he said a person is worth whatever amount they can get period and that includes everyone athletes to janitors to CEO’s . He said if you work for a dime or ten million bucks that’s what your worth is .    Dad’s been dead 22 years and also said I’m not the smartest guy because anyone who spent 8 years active duty boots on the ground between WW2 and Korea is a pretty stupid person ,   Now let’s get the trapline ready and work for some real money! That's exactly correct.  That's why people need to go out on their own and negotiate their own wage.  The union strong arms the company for the group.  Then you have crappy workers, middle of the road workers, and good workers getting the same wage.  Kinda stinks when a slug is making as much as you if your a good worker.  
 
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Re: union leader
[Re: Providence Farm]
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 10/19/23 06:25 PM
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 Yes there is quit a lot of Trump stickers on hard hats lu ch boxes and painted on scrap tube around the plant.   Infact I called the hall out in one of the few meetings I went to when they were pushing support  for Hillary. I pointed out her policies  would be bad for business  directly for our plant.       Funny hou the guy running the meeting could not dispute   the facts figures and numbers I layed out.  I only got a mumbled  response and they moved on to other things.      No one in attendance  questioned my numbers   told me to sit down. Infact several backed me up. where did they spend their campaign contributions?  bet it wasn't for Trump...  
 
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Re: union leader
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  Sounds like we have a good old fashioned Richard measuring contest! 
 
  I’ll say this, I don’t care what anyone makes. Heck, I also hope you find every possible way to not pay taxes on it. Taxes are theft and a persons money should be theirs. 
  Now back to deer hunting. Y’all have a good one.
 
 Nah, I'm like you I don't care what anybody else makes either and we were raised it's not of anyone's business what a man makes. Maybe not even his wife lol. In a year or two there won't be any UWA they will move to Mexico.  Take that bet too  
 
  
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Re: union leader
[Re: jalstat]
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Mando that maybe correct but what he really means was if you take it that’s what you’re worth , look at pro athletes they have players unions plus an agent negotiating a contract and if you except it then that’s your worth but the one thing my dad wouldn’t agree with is excepting a contract for five years and the next year an athlete wants to renegotiate it and that’s not right .     As far as bad employees over 35 years I’ve seen plenty but in 1998 the company had enough and started ridding the scum the legal way by failed drug tests but more easily by tightening up the absentee policy which no union can win when you know the results and you willingly break the rules.     Righ, but pro athletes have no job protection.  They're only as good as their last game.  No performance and they are cut.  Most contracts are not guaranteed.   Same as building trades.  Union gets you your wage and bennies.  If you're a slacker, you get laid off.  That's how all unions should be, but they are not.  
 
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Re: union leader
[Re: white marlin]
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 10/19/23 08:56 PM
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 Yes there is quit a lot of Trump stickers on hard hats lu ch boxes and painted on scrap tube around the plant.   Infact I called the hall out in one of the few meetings I went to when they were pushing support  for Hillary. I pointed out her policies  would be bad for business  directly for our plant.       Funny hou the guy running the meeting could not dispute   the facts figures and numbers I layed out.  I only got a mumbled  response and they moved on to other things.      No one in attendance  questioned my numbers   told me to sit down. Infact several backed me up. where did they spend their campaign contributions?  bet it wasn't for Trump...    Where do all the campaign contributions  going all  the company's you are invested in going?  
 
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Re: union leader
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 10/20/23 05:38 AM
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Mando that maybe correct but what he really means was if you take it that’s what you’re worth , look at pro athletes they have players unions plus an agent negotiating a contract and if you except it then that’s your worth but the one thing my dad wouldn’t agree with is excepting a contract for five years and the next year an athlete wants to renegotiate it and that’s not right .     As far as bad employees over 35 years I’ve seen plenty but in 1998 the company had enough and started ridding the scum the legal way by failed drug tests but more easily by tightening up the absentee policy which no union can win when you know the results and you willingly break the rules.     Righ, but pro athletes have no job protection.  They're only as good as their last game.  No performance and they are cut.  Most contracts are not guaranteed.   Same as building trades.  Union gets you your wage and bennies.  If you're a slacker, you get laid off.  That's how all unions should be, but they are not. so theres no such thing as seniority or tenure in the unions?  
 
  
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Re: union leader
[Re: rex123]
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 10/20/23 06:38 AM
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Companies loading up heavy on management is a reaction to hiring practices out of whack. That’s all of them Union or not. Current practices make is easier for the wrong fit to get in and difficult to cull them out. The whole “companies should be able to train anybody” approach does not apply to all. 
 
  
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