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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often [Re: cathryn] #7967827
10/09/23 02:49 PM
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What you fail to understand imho is cost of production. A world where there are no roads and low fur densities. I think i would be amazed at your animal densities and you would be appalled at mine. smile


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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often [Re: Dirt] #7967837
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Originally Posted by Dirt
What you fail to understand imho is cost of production. A world where there are no roads and low fur densities. I think i would be amazed at your animal densities and you would be appalled at mine. smile

We do have relatively easy trapping access and high critter populations in the Southern US.

I guess the best is always going to be more difficult to get to.


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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7967842
10/09/23 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
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What you fail to understand imho is cost of production. A world where there are no roads and low fur densities. I think i would be amazed at your animal densities and you would be appalled at mine. smile

We do have relatively easy trapping access and high critter populations in the Southern US.

I guess the best is always going to be more difficult to get to.


I consider the higher prices we get as hazard pay for dealing with the difficult conditions wink


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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often [Re: cathryn] #7967847
10/09/23 03:41 PM
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Ice or cottonmouths/gators?

I'm not sure which I'd choose if I had a choice.


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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often [Re: cathryn] #7967930
10/09/23 05:54 PM
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I would probably trust ice more than the cottonmouths.

Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often [Re: cathryn] #7967960
10/09/23 06:53 PM
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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often [Re: Swamp Wolf] #7968180
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Originally Posted by Swamp Wolf
Originally Posted by Dirt
What you fail to understand imho is cost of production. A world where there are no roads and low fur densities. I think i would be amazed at your animal densities and you would be appalled at mine. smile

We do have relatively easy trapping access and high critter populations in the Southern US.

I guess the best is always going to be more difficult to get to.


Roads go through good fur quality areas too. Just no roads where I live. Boco has roads. Imagine if you had to make a trail through every forrest, swamp, lake, river, and creek to get anywhere. Things periodically thaw here too. Some places only freeze when it is negative and open back up when it gets near 20. Trees are falling everyday across your trails and snow and wind wipe out your trails and rivers and creeks open or cave in on your trails. Trapping is the the easy part. Trail breaking and cutting is the endless part.

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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often [Re: cathryn] #7968239
10/10/23 06:28 AM
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Everytime a market heats up we start seeing junk come into the supply and it gets jammed into the mix.

The hatter market needs underfur it doesn't care about color or slight damages but it needs underfur to make felt.

Summer beaver and early flat beaver just screw up this market.

Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often [Re: gibb] #7968286
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Originally Posted by gibb
Everytime a market heats up we start seeing junk come into the supply and it gets jammed into the mix.

The hatter market needs underfur it doesn't care about color or slight damages but it needs underfur to make felt.

Summer beaver and early flat beaver just screw up this market.


They could just buy from a reputable fur buyer who knows how to sort. If they buy junk because they don't know what they're doing and trying to save a buck that's on them.

Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often [Re: Donnersurvivor] #7968300
10/10/23 08:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Donnersurvivor
They could just buy from a reputable fur buyer who knows how to sort. If they buy junk because they don't know what they're doing and trying to save a buck that's on them.

That’s what I was thinking. But at FHA, they were paying good money for poor grades of fur. It’s was graded kinda junky but they wanted it. Did the buyer not know early beaver don’t have much wool?


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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often [Re: Shakeyjake] #7971376
10/14/23 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by Shakeyjake
Originally Posted by cathryn
Ok. Sorry I misunderstood.

It should be good to start but I wouldn't be surprised if by the end of season they're starting to buy beaver on the grade again..especially if those big buyers balk at the price they're having to pay.

The buyer will buy them by the grade but they will still sell them to the felt market by pound , but by buying the pelts on the grade, the buyer will increase their profit margin.


Did the felt only buyers not realize that fall & winter beaver are different? I thought they needed felt so bad they didn’t care?


Key word is "did". I was told some rabbit pelts are starting to show up in the felt market again
So the need for beaver pelts for felt is backing off some and that combined with buyers balking at the prices theure having to pay for beaver hides are gonna be factors in the downturn of the beaver felt market.

Well see..time will tell


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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often [Re: cathryn] #7971379
10/14/23 11:22 AM
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If beaver market drops....then it sure didn't last long.

Typical...


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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often [Re: cathryn] #7989220
11/08/23 08:24 AM
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Yall see Schroeders beaver report in FF and G?


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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often [Re: cathryn] #7989415
11/08/23 12:13 PM
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Originally Posted by cathryn
Yall see Schroeders beaver report in FF and G?

Nope. What does it say?


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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often [Re: cathryn] #7989485
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Are there any beaver trappers employing the sell early and often strategy, moving carcass or green beaver as they catch them, that would be willing to share current prices?

Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often [Re: cathryn] #7990279
11/09/23 12:35 PM
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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often [Re: walleye101] #7990681
11/09/23 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by walleye101
Are there any beaver trappers employing the sell early and often strategy, moving carcass or green beaver as they catch them, that would be willing to share current prices?

MBcoonman did recently but he hasn’t chimed in, cashed in his spring beaver for a nice price. Buyer told him not to tell anyone what he got, but it was fair comparing prices to the last auction. There’s gotta be more guys selling.
For Métis, there might be this option again this year…
https://www.mmf.mb.ca/red-river-metis-fur-company


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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often [Re: cathryn] #7990690
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How do they figure market value.
Do they go by the previous years auction sales avg per species like they do to calculate royalty?

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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often [Re: cathryn] #7990692
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Re: Beaver trappers..sell early and often [Re: Boco] #7991003
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Originally Posted by Boco
How do they figure market value.
Do they go by the previous years auction sales avg per species like they do to calculate royalty?


I guess. I tried to get more info from Jason White, he runs it for RRMF, but got no response or returned calls. I don’t have a card, my wife & here cousins lost theirs (too far removed from blood line) but everyone around here know some.


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