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Re: Drug Legalization Failure [Re: ky_coyote_hunter] #7992898
11/12/23 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
Fully legalize cannabis for those 21 & over and tax the heck
out of it... Set it up for craft small grows so many farmers can benefit...No corporate ventures.

Anything harder than grass not prescribed by a physician
= death penalty, no exceptions.

Do this today, and things turn around tomorrow.


You're high. Lol.

Re: Drug Legalization Failure [Re: yotetrapper30] #7992900
11/12/23 04:39 PM
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The states that have legalized cannabis tax the heck out of it at the wholesale level.

I believe Alaska has a 100 percent tax. Pot isn't legal in ID, but I believe next door Washington state taxes it hard too.

Jim


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Re: Drug Legalization Failure [Re: Mando] #7992902
11/12/23 04:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Mando
Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
Fully legalize cannabis for those 21 & over and tax the heck
out of it... Set it up for craft small grows so many farmers can benefit...No corporate ventures.

Anything harder than grass not prescribed by a physician
= death penalty, no exceptions.

Do this today, and things turn around tomorrow.


You're high. Lol.

Not in the last 40 yrs, Lol laugh


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Re: Drug Legalization Failure [Re: yotetrapper30] #7992903
11/12/23 04:40 PM
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Amazing what they’ve done in San Francisco ahead of chairman XI’s visit,,,,,,

Re: Drug Legalization Failure [Re: yotetrapper30] #7992904
11/12/23 04:42 PM
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It's a crazy notion that people will seek help to stop doing drugs.

They do drugs because they like doing drugs, why would they want to stop?

As cruel as it may sound, they will probably eliminate themselves from being a problem to the rest of us in due time.


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Re: Drug Legalization Failure [Re: yotetrapper30] #7992909
11/12/23 04:49 PM
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Maybe that why the smart sections of Oregon want to join Idaho? Makes sense.

Re: Drug Legalization Failure [Re: yotetrapper30] #7992919
11/12/23 05:09 PM
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A good democrat never looks at the results to decide if what they did is good or bad. If it doesn't work out you just blame it on something else or justify it by another means.
Never seen even legalizing Marijuana be a good thing for the community.

Re: Drug Legalization Failure [Re: yotetrapper30] #7992921
11/12/23 05:13 PM
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That's why I have to take a drug test every year for work, no body wants to work construction with a druggie at hights.

Re: Drug Legalization Failure [Re: yotetrapper30] #7992935
11/12/23 05:25 PM
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I believe no drugs should be legal. Especially anything stronger than pot.
Use leads to addiction quickly. Addiction leads to crime to feed their addiction as working is not possible.
Most theft is from addicts.
Alcohol is addictive, yes. But often takes years. How many alcoholics steal to support their habit. Alcohol does lead to domestic violence however.
Had a stepson who was an addict. Finally died at 39. Never accomplished one thing in life.

Re: Drug Legalization Failure [Re: yotetrapper30] #7992937
11/12/23 05:26 PM
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Seen on the news just this morning that China is lacing weed with some kind of drugs to dumb down smokers.

Making it easier to take over the country. My words not fox news.


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Re: Drug Legalization Failure [Re: ky_coyote_hunter] #7992950
11/12/23 05:49 PM
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Originally Posted by ky_coyote_hunter
Originally Posted by Buck (Zandra)
Taxing the heck out of it thinking it'll bring in a ton of money in tax revenue is a joke

Your state "Michigan" brought in 350 million & Illinois 445 million in 2022.

I haven't seen those stats and you probably pulled them off some pro dope site or government agency.People aren't going to pay ridiculous amounts of money for something they can grow for free.Taxing it at a high rate is counter productive.


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Re: Drug Legalization Failure [Re: yotetrapper30] #7992953
11/12/23 05:54 PM
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I agree with Walleyed

Re: Drug Legalization Failure [Re: rpmartin] #7992955
11/12/23 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by rpmartin
Seen on the news just this morning that China is lacing weed with some kind of drugs to dumb down smokers.

Making it easier to take over the country. My words not fox news.


Grow your own....

Re: Drug Legalization Failure [Re: Blaine County] #7992956
11/12/23 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Blaine County
Marijuana and psychedelics should already be legal.

I'd be fine legalizing the rest, but we should eliminate welfare, social services and gun laws at the same time.



This brings up a couple of the issues we disagree on, you and I.

If we were to eliminate welfare and social services, what do you suppose would happen to the people who are dependent on those programs? Maybe the urban streets would over-flow and you'd start finding them in your barns.

You don't expect them to suddenly go find jobs, do you? People who don't even know how "work" is spelled? Would you hire them?

I think we need better social welfare, which--to attract competent people--means better wages and thus more tax money. I know you'd love that part.

There. Now that I've shown them how a real liberal thinks, maybe they'll stop throwing that intended insult your way. You, BC, are much more libertarian than liberal.

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Re: Drug Legalization Failure [Re: James] #7992968
11/12/23 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by James
Originally Posted by Blaine County
Marijuana and psychedelics should already be legal.

I'd be fine legalizing the rest, but we should eliminate welfare, social services and gun laws at the same time.



This brings up a couple of the issues we disagree on, you and I.

If we were to eliminate welfare and social services, what do you suppose would happen to the people who are dependent on those programs? Maybe the urban streets would over-flow and you'd start finding them in your barns.

You don't expect them to suddenly go find jobs, do you? People who don't even know how "work" is spelled? Would you hire them?

I think we need better social welfare, which--to attract competent people--means better wages and thus more tax money. I know you'd love that part.

There. Now that I've shown them how a real liberal thinks, maybe they'll stop throwing that intended insult your way. You, BC, are much more libertarian than liberal.

Jim


Some might get it together. Most probably won't. Churches and non-profits can step in for those who want help.

I know it's anecdotal, but every week I see the OKCFD responding to overdoses. Multiple time a week and in downtown OKC. These occur within blocks of homeless and addiction prevention resources.

Drugs are illegal and the safety net isn't working. I don't mean to sound cruel, but it's time to try nature.

And thank you for the Libertarian nod. They'll still call me a liberal. I tried to explain in a now deleted post a few weeks ago that you are a liberal and not a leftist.

Re: Drug Legalization Failure [Re: Yes sir] #7992973
11/12/23 06:23 PM
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Originally Posted by Yes sir
A good democrat never looks at the results to decide if what they did is good or bad. If it doesn't work out you just blame it on something else or justify it by another means.
Never seen even legalizing Marijuana be a good thing for the community.

It is way more nefarious than that. It is not only intentional, it is nearly a mandate of the democratic party. They want the populace dumbed down. Nothing works better than weed for that.
Dumb voters are easily swayed. Pot smokers won't vote for a republican who is not beating the pro-weed drum.

Re: Drug Legalization Failure [Re: 52Carl] #7992975
11/12/23 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 52Carl
Originally Posted by Yes sir
A good democrat never looks at the results to decide if what they did is good or bad. If it doesn't work out you just blame it on something else or justify it by another means.
Never seen even legalizing Marijuana be a good thing for the community.

It is way more nefarious than that. It is not only intentional, it is nearly a mandate of the democratic party. They want the populace dumbed down. Nothing works better than weed for that.
Dumb voters are easily swayed. Pot smokers won't vote for a republican who is not beating the pro-weed drum.


I don't smoke weed, but I literally know dozens of pot smokers that vote Republican.


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Re: Drug Legalization Failure [Re: yotetrapper30] #7992976
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Aren't liberals people who want to tax stuff? Three strikes and you're out. We help you 3 times, then you are SOL.


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Re: Drug Legalization Failure [Re: spjones] #7992977
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Originally Posted by spjones
Amazing what they’ve done in San Francisco ahead of chairman XI’s visit,,,,,,

Id bet there was federal money involved in that, prolly all federal money.

Re: Drug Legalization Failure [Re: yotetrapper30] #7992981
11/12/23 06:32 PM
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I haven't seen those stats and you probably pulled them off some pro dope site or government agency.People aren't going to pay ridiculous amounts of money for something they can grow for free.Taxing it at a high rate is counter productive.

Actually got those from the respective state tax revenue reports...People are buying from dispenseries because they are now afraid of the black market weed being laced with fentanyl...Plus, they test for mold, lead and other contaminants.

Not everyone can grow quality cannabis....There is some science involved and it's tedious....Anyone can grow ditch weed.


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