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Re: Drug Legalization Failure
[Re: bowhunter27295]
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11/13/23 09:51 AM
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Some of y'all plainly want a nanny state where the government dictates what you and others can buy and consume.
Freedom can hurt a bit. Some of us are OK with that. Couldn't agree with you more on less laws. That means a much lower need for lawyers. But, as obvious, lawyers do not live in reality. Give me one, just one, benefit to legalizing recreational use of illicit drugs. That means taking the drugs with the determined outcome of getting high. How does that benefit our society and make it safer? You did read the OP's original article, right? Making it legal didn't change the user's it just let them come out in the open. Now they are seen more. Thay were there all along. Stop saving them whan they od and the problem will solve its self. Name one thing that making them illegal had had a positive benefit on. Maybe you like assit forfeiture, prissions full of non violent offenders so thay let the rapest and murders out early, the militarization of the police force, or any of the other million things the war on drugs has created. It sure has not stoped drug use . The war on drugs is really a war on you. Travel with 10k cash on you or ever 5k and see how you like trying to get it back after the cop that pulls you over for a burnt out light when he sees it in the glove box when you get your registration. Drugs are bad for society but giving up your freedom is much worse.
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Re: Drug Legalization Failure
[Re: Providence Farm]
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11/13/23 10:05 AM
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Making it legal didn't change the user's it just let them come out in the open. Now they are seen more. Thay were there all along. Stop saving them whan they od and the problem will solve its self.
Name one thing that making them illegal had had a positive benefit on. Maybe you like assit forfeiture, prissions full of non violent offenders so thay let the rapest and murders out early, the militarization of the police force, or any of the other million things the war on drugs has created. It sure has not stoped drug use . The war on drugs is really a war on you. Travel with 10k cash on you or ever 5k and see how you like trying to get it back after the cop that pulls you over for a burnt out light when he sees it in the glove box when you get your registration.
Drugs are bad for society but giving up your freedom is much worse.
Good post PF. I wonder what guns the Nanny State types on TMan think I should be prohibited from buying. Guns can be misused. Guns can be dangerous. Guns can kill people. Come on--protect me!
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Re: Drug Legalization Failure
[Re: ky_coyote_hunter]
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11/13/23 12:02 PM
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Wonder how much their taxes will be lowered due to this increased revenue?  Missouri is looking to eliminate property tax....Let that happen to a few states and y'all will be weeds biggest cheerleaders, Lol. "Most State governments collect little property tax revenue. It is a local tax primarily and will never be eliminated by pot smoking, gambling, drinking, or tobacco smoking sin taxes. "State governments collected $19 billion from property taxes in 2020, or 1 percent of state general revenue. In contrast, property taxes are one of the largest sources of revenue for local governments. Local governments collected $581 billion in property taxes in 2020, or 30 percent of local general revenue." Source: Urban institute
Who is John Galt?
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Re: Drug Legalization Failure
[Re: Massac]
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11/13/23 02:02 PM
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Not everyone can grow?Oh come on,you know better than that.Before all the legalization nonsense started there was a thriving dope industry in this country.It didn't blossom the last few years when legalization started,its been anywhere and everywhere.And its still thriving,legalization hasn't stopped anything ,a lot of growers still grow it illegally so they don't have to go the legal business route and pay the taxes and follow the regs that go along with running a business.It has removed the fear of getting caught because it no longer has any priority with law enforcement.So now,we have legal and illegal drug businesses running hand in hand.Nothing solved.Anybody that thought it would lives in a fools paradise. Since I can't quote you saying people won't pay for highly taxed pot, I'm going to respond to you here. I live in a small Illinois town with a dispensary who runs operations throughout Illinois and Michigan as well. They sell grams for $20, ounces for $300. They are slammed full of people every single day of the week. The parking lot is filled to the brim with out of staters from Kentucky, Tennessee, Indiana. They do tons of business and bring in tons of tax money. The pot is taxed based on its potency. There are 3 tiers of tax, where the highest tier is taxed up to 18% I believe. This place's prices are more than double what you can pay for pot on the street ($10 grams, $120 ounces). So yes, know-it-all, there are tons of people willing to pay their money over over priced, over taxed pot. And there are tons more that don't.So now you have a thriving legal AND illegal drug industry.Legalizing didn't solve a thing.
Buck(formely known as Zandra)
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Re: Drug Legalization Failure
[Re: yotetrapper30]
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11/13/23 03:37 PM
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Just what we needed, another class of crap faced idiots on the nations highways.
Every kid needs a Dog and a Curmudgeon.
Remember Bowe Bergdahl, the traitor.
Beware! Jill Pudlewski, Ron Oates and Keven Begesse are liars and thiefs!
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Re: Drug Legalization Failure
[Re: steeltraps]
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11/13/23 04:53 PM
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Ok. If a marijuana dispensary gets robbed for 100000 cash and 50 lbs of pot . How is the robbers caught and sent to prison? It's federally illegal to have 50 lbs of pot ? So HOW do you file report? Asking for a friend ?? LloL!
Violated State law. I'm still wondering, if the State collects these taxes in cash, where do they keep all this cash and how do they pay for stuff with the cash? P.S. Where do I apply for this State cash collecting job? 
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Who is John Galt?
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Re: Drug Legalization Failure
[Re: BigBob]
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11/13/23 05:06 PM
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Just what we needed, another class of crap faced idiots on the nations highways. Do you truly believe they are not allready out there. If so your very sheltered or just native.
Last edited by Providence Farm; 11/13/23 06:32 PM.
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