Re: Low carb?
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11/19/23 11:23 AM
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Low carb and I usually only eat 1 or 2 meals a day. Lost 120 lbs over last 3 years. You still have to keep calorie low if you want to lose weight. You can easily gain if you eat too much no matter how low the carb. I feel tremendously better on low carb whether I am losing weight or maintaining. Every so often I’ll cheat for a day or 2, like at deer camp, and I will feel miserable and bloated for days.
Decent low carb high fiber breads and wraps for fast meals occasionally, soups, stews and meats are always good. Just gotta drop the high carb veggies. Radish actually makes great potato sub in a soup or stew. The regular radish flavor is not present after stewing. Kinda like a low taste potato...
That radish idea is very intriguing…..I’m gonna try that soon! Happy trapping! ScottW
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Re: Low carb?
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11/19/23 03:42 PM
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Like said meat. veggies and fruits for me no raw sugar, sweets, ice cream, potatoes, rice, or white breads. Its tough to eat perfect especially if you enjoy eating. Stevia liquid is about the best sweetener I’ve found in my research if you have heart issues stay away from the crystal sugar looking version of stevia the Erythritol added to make the crystals can be an issue some studies say.
For as long as diabetes has been researched the info out there is really substandard by todays standards with lots of gibberish and values that mean nothing, then one report counters the other reports with no clear directions that make much sense.
Somethings I’ve found that I do eat because I need to eat something to survive and tree bark doesn’t appeal to me. They are not perfect I’m sure but I’ve cut out a lot of things already that I really like so I’m only giving up so much I’m not living on rice cakes or oatmeal.
Bacon, eggs and wheat toast or oatmeal for breakfast PBJ with Smuckers sugar free jam (raspberry/ strawberry), double burger no fries for lunch, meat and veggies for dinner. Snacks sugar free cookies or fig bars popcorn, nuts or slim Jim’s for snacks.
Most info out there tells you what you can’t eat but little info is out there for a simple meal plan to go by. Info here varies from post to post so that’s confusing also. Salt, fat or sugars will kill you so your pick your poison or good luck finding a variety of foods that don’t contain any of the three.
The wife bought me a book “Food list for Diabetes” when it comes to meat they list 1oz portions well heck who eats 1oz of meat really. I feel for the guys with heart issues, cholesterol or salt problem limiting their options even more.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: Low carb?
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11/19/23 05:55 PM
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I believe non enriched rice/pasta is not a problem for me if I use portion control, the same for natural honey....I think that oatmeal is a grain the same as whole wheat pasta. Anyone can have sensitivity to a food but you only find out what those are by doing a 100 day or longer elimination diet and then slowly adding in foods to see how you feel after eating them for a few days. But, you do need to be in tune with your body and realize that things effect different people in a different manner or maybe not at all...
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Re: Low carb?
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11/19/23 09:26 PM
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Those sugar alcohol sweeteners can turn a guy about inside out and it doesn’t take much. I took some Werthers hard candies elk hunting and they tasted great for being sugar free. They were smaller in size so I ate them throughout the day that was a big mistake I thought it was food poisoning they about had me doubled over a few times.
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Re: Low carb?
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11/19/23 10:49 PM
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Like said meat. veggies and fruits for me no raw sugar, sweets, ice cream, potatoes, rice, or white breads. Its tough to eat perfect especially if you enjoy eating. Stevia liquid is about the best sweetener I’ve found in my research if you have heart issues stay away from the crystal sugar looking version of stevia the Erythritol added to make the crystals can be an issue some studies say.
For as long as diabetes has been researched the info out there is really substandard by todays standards with lots of gibberish and values that mean nothing, then one report counters the other reports with no clear directions that make much sense.
Somethings I’ve found that I do eat because I need to eat something to survive and tree bark doesn’t appeal to me. They are not perfect I’m sure but I’ve cut out a lot of things already that I really like so I’m only giving up so much I’m not living on rice cakes or oatmeal.
Bacon, eggs and wheat toast or oatmeal for breakfast PBJ with Smuckers sugar free jam (raspberry/ strawberry), double burger no fries for lunch, meat and veggies for dinner. Snacks sugar free cookies or fig bars popcorn, nuts or slim Jim’s for snacks.
Most info out there tells you what you can’t eat but little info is out there for a simple meal plan to go by. Info here varies from post to post so that’s confusing also. Salt, fat or sugars will kill you so your pick your poison or good luck finding a variety of foods that don’t contain any of the three.
The wife bought me a book “Food list for Diabetes” when it comes to meat they list 1oz portions well heck who eats 1oz of meat really. I feel for the guys with heart issues, cholesterol or salt problem limiting their options even more.
Your eating a high carb diet. You wont lower your blood sugar eating that. , oatmeal is high carb, wheat toast is high carb, PBJs are high carb, popcorn is high carb, fruit is high carb, sugar free cookies are high carb, double burgers with buns are high carb, fig bars are . And once again, salt is good for you and so is cholesterol. Dont worry about either. Should not be eating any snacks in between meals. and skip one meal a day of you want to speed things up. Eat all the meat eggs, fish, seafood you want. all leafy vegies are ok, cauliflower and cabbage are good vegies.
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Re: Low carb?
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11/19/23 11:55 PM
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I’m a goner then I have to eat something I cut out a lot of my likes and gave up my favorites if I give up any more I’ll starve to death slowly. I’m down 30lb now that I did not plan on losing. Being a picky eater it’s been a problem from day 1 for me.
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Jerry Herbst
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Re: Low carb?
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11/20/23 12:47 AM
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If you lost 30 lbs your doing something right. Remember, high blood sugar is not from only eating sugar, its from your body turning carbs into sugar too. You cant just stop eating sugar its the whole grains as well.
Also, its not the end of the world to eliminate high carb foods. Plenty of good food to be had, just not grains. And it dont have to be permanant, just until you get back to normal weight and blood sugar then add back a few favorite foods as long as your healthy and dont go crazy.
You can pretty much forget packaged, diet foods, and sugar free. I would give up pop totally, nothing good there. Maybe have a beer once in while instead.
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Re: Low carb?
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11/20/23 01:46 AM
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1-2 Diet Dr. Peppers a day for me and coffee 2X a day then ice water the rest of the time. I was hitting the low salt chips for a while but quit them also. No diet meals for me the wife found some steam in the bag veggies that not bad tasting stuff. My next A1C test is in Jan will see what the outcome is then.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
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Re: Low carb?
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Doing the two week low carb challenge. Two days left. As a recovering alcoholic I have just over 10 years sober. I was a moderate cigarette smoker pack every two days. I quit that two years ago. But quitting sugar is harder than both of those for me.
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Re: Low carb?
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11/20/23 09:16 AM
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Doing the two week low carb challenge. Two days left. As a recovering alcoholic I have just over 10 years sober. I was a moderate cigarette smoker pack every two days. I quit that two years ago. But quitting sugar is harder than both of those for me. Stopping sugar really messed with my head it did some crazy things to my brain and still impacts some functions of it. Had brain fog for several months and lost the ability to do simple math in my head and I am single focused on tasks now. My writing ability takes a lot of work and constant review to make any sense and don’t talk to me when I’m typing or doing something. Daily function is fine so working or fixing stuff has not changed much physically I’m fine that way better then most my age. Short term memory is impacted the most the Doc said long term memory is different and not compromised because of the impact of the short term issue. I think my mistake was quitting sugar cold turkey but if I did not stop sugar I’d still be doing it maybe.
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Re: Low carb?
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11/20/23 10:11 AM
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Doing the two week low carb challenge. Two days left. As a recovering alcoholic I have just over 10 years sober. I was a moderate cigarette smoker pack every two days. I quit that two years ago. But quitting sugar is harder than both of those for me. Try having some honey, blueberries, banana or a sweet apple.....all sugar is not the devil...refined sugar is.
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Re: Low carb?
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11/20/23 12:51 PM
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If you have to drink diet soda, check the label. Make sure it isn't using Aspartame as a sweetener as many do. Go on the internet and check out the horrors of Aspartame.
My doctor suggested I start doing squats, so I moved all the beer to the bottom shelf of my fridge.
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Re: Low carb?
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11/20/23 01:54 PM
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Doing the two week low carb challenge. Two days left. As a recovering alcoholic I have just over 10 years sober. I was a moderate cigarette smoker pack every two days. I quit that two years ago. But quitting sugar is harder than both of those for me. Try having some honey, blueberries, banana or a sweet apple.....all sugar is not the devil...refined sugar is. Nope, all sugar bad if your trying to get healthy. its all the same thing, Its stored as fat in the liver. Not good.
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Re: Low carb?
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11/20/23 02:42 PM
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I am healthy already and see no issues with natural sugary foods. Humans been eating honey and fruits since the beginning of time.
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Re: Low carb?
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11/20/23 04:12 PM
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No way is anyone better off eating refined sugar vs honey....jmo.
eating processed foods is the problem..eating natural foods is not how people got health issues/obese.
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