Re: Low carb?
[Re: rex123]
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11/20/23 04:43 PM
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No way is anyone better off eating refined sugar vs honey....jmo.
eating processed foods is the problem..eating natural foods is not how people got health issues/obese. I am beekeeper and I sure wanted honey to be good for me, but in fact it is not. Its good if you if you have allergies and you eat local honey, and don't have blood sugar issues or heart problems. Its sweet and spikes your blood sugar worse than sugar. That's a fact, not an opinion. I am a diabetic and diet sodas are just as bad for you in there own way as regular sodas. Yup, that's what I heard too.
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Re: Low carb?
[Re: yote_trapper20]
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11/20/23 04:51 PM
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Thankfully I have no blood sugar issues or heart problems...so honey is not an issue. Eating processed food/refined sugar is an issue and how many people develop these problems. Honey never killed anyone but soda pop has...jmo.
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Re: Low carb?
[Re: Trapper Dahlgren]
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11/21/23 06:47 AM
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the thing about no carbs that I was surprise the most was with, and I didn't eat many carbs to start with [I thought] was the cravings the first 4-5 days was terrible. How it's really easy eating low carbs, everyone tells me that they can see it in my face that I lost weight, guess I had a fat face lol, I never knew. Same here Roy,,,thin face now like when I was young!
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Re: Low carb?
[Re: yote_trapper20]
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11/21/23 09:29 AM
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I will take sugar that is processed via mother nature every time over sugar that is processed by man. The same as I use tallow I make versus seed oils..and peanut butter that is see the peanuts ground up versus some processed peanut butter....and the list goes on.
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Re: Low carb?
[Re: yukonjeff]
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11/21/23 09:36 AM
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Its all processed sugar. Bees' process nectar into concentrated form of liquid sugar we call honey. Its more processed and condensed than white table sugar is.
Sugar comes from the juice of sugar cane processed down into concentrated form and dried, much of it is in syrup form just like honey.
Fruit sugar is also processed by nature and sunshine to ripen a concentrated liquid form of sugar juice naturally.
All three will spike your blood sugar the same. No exception. It dont matter if it was hand squeezed by Mother Teresa herself. It will still give you diabetes. NMO.
I always heard that the fiber in some fruits, like apples, slows down the sugar absorption so way less likely to spike BS. That’s why orange juice or apple juice will spike BS, the fiber is removed. Is that not so Jeff?
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Re: Low carb?
[Re: yote_trapper20]
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11/21/23 10:47 AM
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You cannot get much agreement on what to eat or not eat just look on the internet one article says bad the next says it’s not only OK but it’s good for you. A lot of info says don’t eat this or that but gives little info on what to eat. Most info is useless to what you can eat with little real options for a week of meals a guy traveling would be very hungry pretty quickly.
The last book the wife picked up had assigned values to the foods they listed like 1 oz of meat 1/2 cup of this or that it just made no sense to make a realistic menu from the information offered. I don’t see many menu ideas being offered just useless values that mean little to nothing. If you took all of the don't eat advice and added the food items that some say eat and others say don’t eat paper plates would be the only meal option. LOL
One thing you notice on this subject is the lack of dependable references, articles, resources or menus being readily available to people today. It’s amazing with all of the research that’s been done and billions spent on research so little usable info is available today.
Why is no company not getting rich packaging real meal alternatives with the years of research that’s been studied? Is it because they don’t know or they just can’t agree on the info they are coming up with?
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Re: Low carb?
[Re: Trapset]
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11/21/23 10:54 AM
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Its all processed sugar. Bees' process nectar into concentrated form of liquid sugar we call honey. Its more processed and condensed than white table sugar is.
Sugar comes from the juice of sugar cane processed down into concentrated form and dried, much of it is in syrup form just like honey.
Fruit sugar is also processed by nature and sunshine to ripen a concentrated liquid form of sugar juice naturally.
All three will spike your blood sugar the same. No exception. It dont matter if it was hand squeezed by Mother Teresa herself. It will still give you diabetes. NMO.
I always heard that the fiber in some fruits, like apples, slows down the sugar absorption so way less likely to spike BS. That’s why orange juice or apple juice will spike BS, the fiber is removed. Is that not so Jeff? The same with potatoes a smaller baked potato is OK in one article then eat nothing white comes up (white death) in the next. It seems people are quick to tell a person what not to eat but slow to offer reasonable options of what you can eat. Very confusing and depressing with the lack of info available in this day and age.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Low carb?
[Re: Law Dog]
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11/21/23 11:01 AM
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Why is no company not getting rich packaging real meal alternatives with the years of research that’s been studied? Is it because they don’t know or they just can’t agree on the info they are coming up with? I think it’s the addiction factor. They could never sell enough good food to make any money because we wouldn’t eat enough of it. It would be like taking the nicotine out of smokes, most people would get by on one or two a day. No money in that. Maybe add nicotine to good food????
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Re: Low carb?
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11/21/23 11:34 AM
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Maybe the zero sugar sodas are ok in moderation. I do 1-2 diet Dr Pepper’s a day 2 in the warmer months then 1 in the winter months with 1-2 cups of coffee if it’s not too hot for the 2nd cup later in the day. The pop goes over a big glass of ice then I have ice water for the rest of the day so I get my water in because water keeps the plumbing working like it should.
Was born in a Big City Will die in the Country OK with that!
Jerry Herbst
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Re: Low carb?
[Re: yote_trapper20]
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11/21/23 12:27 PM
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Eat zero processed food/drink. Eat all natural foods with a good macro ratio, be active and consume the correct amount of calories for your activity level.
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Re: Low carb?
[Re: Trapset]
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11/21/23 02:30 PM
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Its all processed sugar. Bees' process nectar into concentrated form of liquid sugar we call honey. Its more processed and condensed than white table sugar is.
Sugar comes from the juice of sugar cane processed down into concentrated form and dried, much of it is in syrup form just like honey.
Fruit sugar is also processed by nature and sunshine to ripen a concentrated liquid form of sugar juice naturally.
All three will spike your blood sugar the same. No exception. It dont matter if it was hand squeezed by Mother Teresa herself. It will still give you diabetes. NMO.
I always heard that the fiber in some fruits, like apples, slows down the sugar absorption so way less likely to spike BS. That’s why orange juice or apple juice will spike BS, the fiber is removed. Is that not so Jeff? They say that you can subtract fiber from carbs to slow the absorption, but guess what, you still it absorbed high carbs, and your blood sugar will be high from it, just not as fast. Once again, if you reading package labels and trying to find something to eat low carb, you dont get it. You have to cook your own food or just eat protein and vegies at a restaurant. Its that simple. No rice, sugar, no potatoes, bread, noodles. If you can just do that you can drop a lot of weight and get healthy
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Re: Low carb?
[Re: Marty]
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11/21/23 02:40 PM
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I will take sugar that is processed via mother nature every time over sugar that is processed by man. Actually, I would too. But I would not expect it to make me healthy and be good for me. Honey may have health benefits, but if you have a have a stroke or heart attack from it, you wont be around to enjoy the benefits, that's not my opinion, it's a fact.
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Re: Low carb?
[Re: yote_trapper20]
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11/21/23 02:53 PM
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I eat radishes, cauliflower, asparagus, Chilis both spicy and bell peppers, green beans, brussel sprouts.. Occasionally a bottle of beer or glass of wine A few carrots here and there along with parsnips and turnip (Go real easy on parsnip)Leafy stuff like lettuce cabbage and spinach. Cheese (not cheese food) Meat eggs and fish to fill up. Its working for me.
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Re: Low carb?
[Re: yukonjeff]
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11/21/23 05:21 PM
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I will take sugar that is processed via mother nature every time over sugar that is processed by man. Actually, I would too. But I would not expect it to make me healthy and be good for me. Honey may have health benefits, but if you have a have a stroke or heart attack from it, you wont be around to enjoy the benefits, that's not my opinion, it's a fact. 
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Re: Low carb?
[Re: yote_trapper20]
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11/22/23 08:08 AM
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Search for Podcasts for any of the following functional Dr's.
Dr Robert Lustig. He'll explain ALL about sugar. Honey is fructose. Not the same as table sugar.
Dr Steven Gundry. He goes way more veggie diet type than the rest. Former world known heart surgeon.
Dr Ken Berry. Dr. Ken Berry Proper Human Diet Guide
Remember. Low carb is just that. As I have stated before, that equals less than 130grs of carbs per day. If you are excercising, whether running, long walks, bicycling, trapping, or weight training (the best) you will burn some carbs.
Every body type is different. But the one thing all Dr's agree on is that sugar is bad. In any form, and carbs get converted to sugar.
Lawdog, or anyone, try adding cheese and bacon to your diet. If you don't have enough fat with your food intake you will get hungry.
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