Homemade Charcoal
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12/10/23 09:29 PM
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Forget everything I have said in the past about homemade charcoal. For the last few years I have made tons of charcoal simply and quickly. No multiple container retorts, or constant monitoring for hours on end. All I use is one 55 gallon steel drum with removeable lid. The only modification is a bunch of 3/8-1/2 inch holes drilled about 1 inch up from the bottom spaced maybe 9-12 inches apart. Note: it ain't rocket science. How to use: - cut wood ~16" long x 4" x 4"
- cross stack a layer or two in the bottom of the drum
- light it
- come back when it is burning good, and stack another couple layers on top of it
- Repeat until drum is full, or you have whatever level you want.
- when everything is fully burning seal the top, and cover the bottom holes with soil, ash or whatever.
- When it is cool to the touch, the next day or so, you will have your charcoal
Yeah a lot of the lower levels are ash, and some of the upper levels are charred wood. But the stuff in the center is perfectly good charcoal, made brain dead simple. The unfinished stuff is a perfect starter for the next batch and the layer or two of waste makes up for the simplicity.
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Re: Homemade Charcoal
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12/10/23 09:37 PM
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Grilling, smoking, forging, bonfires, don't know what I'd do without it.
The resulting charcoal burns faster and hotter than store-bought briquettes. But, you get used to it; and it is so cheap, you can keep tons of it on hand. In fact, often when I make it, I have a couple drums going at the same time.
Man who mistake shillelagh for fairy wand; see pixie dust, also.
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Re: Homemade Charcoal
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12/10/23 09:42 PM
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Make sure your wood is aged and not still green. You really don't need the holes in the lower part of the barrel , but it helps get the wood going. I tried it with a hole in the lower part of the drum , and without , both worked , but green wood caused water droplets to put the smoldering out. It works either way , as long as there's no open hole in the lower part of the drum. Once the lid is sealed on. It will smolder more than a day if done right. I don't open the barrel for three days, but know it can be sooner. Just how my time worked out from other projects.
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Re: Homemade Charcoal
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12/10/23 09:50 PM
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good info
my burn barrels for burning stuff up never used them for charcoal. I use the angle grinder to cut V then bend the bottoms in I do that all the way around leaving about 6 inches then taking about 6 inches
they burn like an inferno but could still get the bottom vents covered with dirt easy enough I wonder if more are at the beginning would get your temp up and get more wood burning at once and give a higher ration of finished charcoal.
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Re: Homemade Charcoal
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12/10/23 10:04 PM
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I'm not too particular on the wood I use. Obviously, never use treated, painted wood, and avoid species that may contain toxins, like black walnut. Moisture level? It really doesn't much matter, except each batch should be somewhat uniform for burn quality.
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Re: Homemade Charcoal
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12/10/23 10:08 PM
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The more holes the better the burn.
You just need to be able to seal them up, somehow.
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Re: Homemade Charcoal
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12/10/23 10:15 PM
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"Leña por el carbon Maruja" One of my favorite cumbias. Transalated: Gathering firewood to make charcoal, Maruja".
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Re: Homemade Charcoal
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12/10/23 10:54 PM
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Question is. . . the VALUE of YOUR time + wood material + effort would = XX # of pounds produced? vs the cost of buying charcoal?
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Re: Homemade Charcoal
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12/11/23 10:18 AM
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Question is. . . the VALUE of YOUR time + wood material + effort would = XX # of pounds produced? vs the cost of buying charcoal? If you only grill a couple steaks a year; that may very well be a valid question. For the rest of us, it's a no-brainer.
Man who mistake shillelagh for fairy wand; see pixie dust, also.
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Re: Homemade Charcoal
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Question is. . . the VALUE of YOUR time + wood material + effort would = XX # of pounds produced? vs the cost of buying charcoal? OK, I'll bite: - Cost of my time: $0.00 since I'm cutting and splitting for the outdoor boiler, anyway
- wood material: $0.00 since I get free block wood from tree services in the area. The stuff for charcoal is the culls- not suitable for boiler wood
- effort-included in the first point.
- lbs produced: just guessing-probably 20 lb/batch
- cost of buying equivalent bulk lump charcoal on Amazon $144.00/12 lb or $12.00/lb plus tax and shipping
Not a bad deal $240 value. Even if you deduct the $20.00 drum that you forgot about, it's a screaming deal.
Man who mistake shillelagh for fairy wand; see pixie dust, also.
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Re: Homemade Charcoal
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12/11/23 11:05 AM
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Question is. . . the VALUE of YOUR time + wood material + effort would = XX # of pounds produced? vs the cost of buying charcoal? OK, I'll bite: - Cost of my time: $0.00 since I'm cutting and splitting for the outdoor boiler, anyway
- wood material: $0.00 since I get free block wood from tree services in the area. The stuff for charcoal is the culls- not suitable for boiler wood
- effort-included in the first point.
- lbs produced: just guessing-probably 20 lb/batch
- cost of buying equivalent bulk lump charcoal on Amazon $144.00/12 lb or $12.00/lb plus tax and shipping
Not a bad deal $240 value. Even if you deduct the $20.00 drum that you forgot about, it's a screaming deal. Since you're cutting wood for a boiler system, then making charcoal is secondary to the initial effort, not the primary reason. Would you still make charcoal if you weren't doing it for a boiler? . . . and I do much more than a few steaks in a year :-)
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Re: Homemade Charcoal
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12/11/23 11:18 AM
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We still have a local guy who has a kiln and sells it. I think the last 40 lb bag I bought was $30. There is no way in (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) I would pay $12/lb
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Re: Homemade Charcoal
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12/11/23 11:35 AM
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Charcoal is .62 to $1.25 a pound at Wally World. I just looked. $12 a pound must be liberal charcoal. I quite buying it years ago. But I never even paid a dollar a pound when I was buying it.
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Would you still make charcoal if you weren't doing it for a boiler? . . I'll tell you in the spring when I move into a city lot. We still have a local guy who has a kiln and sells it. I think the last 40 lb bag I bought was $30. There is no way in (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) I would pay $12/lb Me niether.
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12/11/23 12:37 PM
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I live close to Amish lumber mills. I use the cut offs and scraps. They used to give it away , but now charge so much per load , last load in a 4x6x2 trailer was $20.00. Just have to ask, if they're in a good mood it could be cheaper . You can make a lot of charcoal out of that. Usually it's used for home forges to do metal work shaping. Blacksmithing .
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12/11/23 02:20 PM
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Re: Homemade Charcoal
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Re: Homemade Charcoal
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12/11/23 03:22 PM
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I've made a pile of it over the years, the barrel inside a barrel method and it turned out great. Much better stuff than bought once you learned when it was done.
My barrels burnt thru so I haven't made any for a couple years, but this post gave me the push I needed to fix a couple barrels up and make some mkre!
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Re: Homemade Charcoal
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Make sure your wood is aged and not still green. You really don't need the holes in the lower part of the barrel , but it helps get the wood going. I tried it with a hole in the lower part of the drum , and without , both worked , but green wood caused water droplets to put the smoldering out. It works either way , as long as there's no open hole in the lower part of the drum. Once the lid is sealed on. It will smolder more than a day if done right. I don't open the barrel for three days, but know it can be sooner. Just how my time worked out from other projects.
Just up the road from my Deer Cabin is a commercial Kiln, and all they buy and stuff in there is green wood. The water vapor condenses and runs out into a small pool that the locals dump there traps into to blacken them. LOL
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12/11/23 06:54 PM
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I would think it would make very good charcoal. Hard woods all make good charcoal.
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Re: Homemade Charcoal
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12/11/23 07:06 PM
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Question is. . . the VALUE of YOUR time + wood material + effort would = XX # of pounds produced? vs the cost of buying charcoal? OK, I'll bite: - Cost of my time: $0.00 since I'm cutting and splitting for the outdoor boiler, anyway
- wood material: $0.00 since I get free block wood from tree services in the area. The stuff for charcoal is the culls- not suitable for boiler wood
- effort-included in the first point.
- lbs produced: just guessing-probably 20 lb/batch
- cost of buying equivalent bulk lump charcoal on Amazon $144.00/12 lb or $12.00/lb plus tax and shipping
Not a bad deal $240 value. Even if you deduct the $20.00 drum that you forgot about, it's a screaming deal. Surely that's a misprint on the cost of a 12lb bag.
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Re: Homemade Charcoal
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12/12/23 12:49 AM
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Surely that's a misprint on the cost of a 12lb bag. You are probably correct. I wasn't shopping; just grabbed the first example on Amazon to plug into a bogus equation. My only point is that making your own is dirt cheap and brain dead simple.
Man who mistake shillelagh for fairy wand; see pixie dust, also.
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Re: Homemade Charcoal
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12/27/23 09:23 PM
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I was at some friends of mines Shire today. My friend Dennis welded up two charcoal cookers. He fabricates all sorts of cool items and structures. In the first picture, there is piece of angle iron along the edges of the hole. The angle iron prevents oxygen from entering well, while the wood is burning. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2023/12/full-11798-201828-img_1693.jpeg) In this picture the fire goes below the box. The box is sealed except for one pipe that goes down and one that goes up. Both pipes allow the gasses to escape and spout fire. Dennis is getting 60% of the weight of the ash wood he uses in charcoal. ![[Linked Image]](https://trapperman.com/forum/attachments/usergals/2023/12/full-11798-201829-img_1700.jpeg) He pulverizes some of the charcoal for use as biochar, with a hammer mill. He uses large chunks of charcoal in a huge pizza oven, he built and in a hog roaster, he built too. He had several dozen 50 pound onion sacks of chunk charcoal and a great many buckets of pulverized charcoal. Keith
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Re: Homemade Charcoal
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12/27/23 09:40 PM
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He could use it in a wood gasification system to run a motor. Also important ingredient in making black powder. Yes, on both. They are apocalypse ready. Keith Both are on my list of skills to master. Just not enough time in the week.
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