Re: Timber Value
[Re: Eagleye]
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12/28/23 08:15 AM
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You'll get a different perspective by state, species and even regional locations within the state. In NW Wisconsin, timber prices are depressed and winter contracts that were issued were very limited, a lot of loggers that are sitting on multi-million-dollar investments in equipment and most are spending more time with bankers than in the woods. The emerald ash borer (although it hasn't reached my location yet) is the boogie man for state owned lands and they're leveling it, flooding the market and further depressing prices. If you're a logger that's not diversified into, excavation, trucking or something supplemental- survival will be tough in this marketplace. Largest hardwood sawmill in MN is about 5 miles from my house. They haven’t really worked since July ! The demand for hardwood lumber is currently weak in this economy. That results in tough grading for what Timber does enter the yard.
It’s a lazy man who can’t find his wife a second job !
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Re: Timber Value
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12/28/23 12:24 PM
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If your select cutting , stick with the walnut and whiteoak the rest is trash right now, asking for timber selling advise on the internet is like what would you give me for my good dog ,i been offered 10 bucks , have i been lowballed ?. can you really give me the right way to go. Ill rephrase that your timber is not trash ,just some woods not very sought after right now.
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Re: Timber Value
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12/28/23 05:36 PM
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BigBob
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Make sure to get a hard start and finish date, or they will drag it out forever, and specify about not leaving trash behind, or you'll be looking at oil cans for the rest of your life. Do you want them letting all their kith and kin cutting tops for firewood? Speaking for a friend.
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Re: Timber Value
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12/28/23 05:56 PM
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jbyrd63
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Thanks for all the replys.
He gave me a lump sum price for the trees. I just did the math based on the amount of trees he said he would take and it came to $152.00 a tree. I know the value of each tree and each species of tree varies depending on the size and type of tree. It seemed a bit low to me.
The majority of my trees are red oak, white oak, beech, and tulip poplar. Most of my trees are 20 to 30 inches in diameter. Dang some ones math is way off. Yours or his if that's the total.
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Re: Timber Value
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12/28/23 05:56 PM
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Taylor county, Wisconsin
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Location and local market is everything. I have been logging for 35 years and see how the markets and timber values change depending on the demand. I have give hundreds of quotes over the years and have been praised by some cussed out by others because someone told them what they think it is worth. Local saw mills will almost always give you the current price so give them a call so you know for yourself and a good forester will be able to tell you the approximate grade and quantity. I have only sold a couple of semi loads of logs above $4000. Most of the time the oak market is flooded
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Re: Timber Value
[Re: jbyrd63]
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12/28/23 06:16 PM
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Thanks for all the replys.
He gave me a lump sum price for the trees. I just did the math based on the amount of trees he said he would take and it came to $152.00 a tree. I know the value of each tree and each species of tree varies depending on the size and type of tree. It seemed a bit low to me.
The majority of my trees are red oak, white oak, beech, and tulip poplar. Most of my trees are 20 to 30 inches in diameter. Dang some ones math is way off. Yours or his if that's the total. Jbyrd, how did you come up with your math? I wouldnt know where to start without knowing the species percentage, height, grade, etc.
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Re: Timber Value
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12/28/23 06:50 PM
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My math isn't off. One thing I know is math.
He did tell me he would be taking 18 of the bigger beech trees.
I walked up with him for a little bit and then left him to do his thing. He did point out a big quaken asp tree that was choking out a smaller white oak. He said the white oak would really grow once the bigger tree was cut. He seemed to know his business and he came highly recommended.
I told him I was just starting the process and would be getting several bids.
Randy
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Re: Timber Value
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12/28/23 08:29 PM
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A 30 in tree with 2 16 ft logs will have around 1000 board ft in it 24 in with 2 logs tad over 500. If same tree has 3 about 600 Not to mention half logs . Get you a biltmore stick plus a tailors tape measure and have at it . I got a box of 50 timber calculator pocket digest if anyone wants one
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Re: Timber Value
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12/28/23 08:54 PM
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I can't sleep unless I'm getting at least 10 bids on timber for a client or myself. Even the honest buyers may not need your timber so you can't blame them for not paying the highest price. Out of say 10 buyers you find out who really wants what you have.
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