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Re: Deer recovery drone, opinions [Re: warrior] #8047986
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I know that feeling!

Re: Deer recovery drone, opinions [Re: Diggerman] #8047996
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Originally Posted by Diggerman
Last thing I want on my peaceful opening Mourning is my day ruined by a noisy drone flying around by someone too lazy to track a deer or a neighbor who thinks it might have gone to my woods.



So you would rather have a group of people walking through tracking and looking for blood? Myself I would rather have a drone fly over.

Re: Deer recovery drone, opinions [Re: Providence Farm] #8047997
01/13/24 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by Turtledale
I'm for less technology and more boots on the ground, learn to take more ethical shots, and improve tracking/recovery skills with your own senses

If this becomes common place the price of the technology for it will come down and more people will certainly start abusing it.

Every recovery I've heard of or seen is for a large buck but not a doe or small buck, head hunters imo

This will also lead to people making marginal shots assuming they can recover with a drone later!

For the OP's question of opinions I'm against drone recovery



My boys are 11 and 13. The 11 year old has killed 15 deer the 13 year old 18. Neither have ever lost a deer. But things happen. Deer move wind blows and people are never perfect. Last year Mt youngest had a shot hit low in the chest on a doe. We tracked it about 3/4 miles for 4 hours before the blood stoped. I got on line and found a guy with tracking dogs in the area and called him. He was out of state elk hunting but I did call him for a doe. Finally we went back hunting. As luck would have it a few hours later my son shot another doe. When we got to it he said it has two holes in it. Sure enough just 3 the hole i below saw was a 2nd hole. We were in the sand woods not far from where the blood ran out. Talk about getting lucky he got a second shot at the same deer.

Ethical shots. The first shot was about 40 yards the 2nd was 110 that droped it. Witch shot was not ethical,?

I don't think I would need it but I sure wouldn't mind having the option available. Talking about ethics. There will always be poor shots and people that can't track. So twll them o to bad no you can't use all the tools available to recover your deer so it rots and they go on to shoot several more making bad shots and loosing several of those. Yes that's a miss guided since of ethic superiority in my opinion. Also a (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) poor since of freedom. Well I don't like it, I can't afford it , someone may is It to do something illegal so make it illegal.

Turn that to a different thing like guns. Someone may do something illegal with them better ban the modern semi autos single shots only or no guns at all. Hmm the same mind set as a gun grabber you have on drones .

More boots on the ground are you kidding. Again it's all about you and how you hunt and resources available to you. When I'm out of state hunting it's myself and my young boys. Sure I can just call up my clan and buddies and have them drive 3 hours to come help track a deer.

This is a very poor mind set you have and bad for hunting.




So you'd be all for having a trail cam with a gun operated by it sitting in your living room shooting deer from your couch. Not letting people do that in your words would be "a (This word is unacceptable on Trapperman) poor sense of freedom. Well I don't like it, can't afford it, someone may do something illegal, so make it illegal. This is a poor mindset you have and bad for hunting".

Do you see how ludicrous that sounds?

I'm not writing this to get in a pissing match with you. Just so you understand that my statement wasn't anti hunting and freedom. Just a take on too much technology creeping into hunting. And I believe MANY people will use this technology to abuse in turn this will give the antis more fodder to take away our freedoms. . I hope you and your boys recover every deer you shoot and enjoy a lifetime of hunting.


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Re: Deer recovery drone, opinions [Re: Providence Farm] #8048027
01/13/24 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Providence Farm
Originally Posted by Diggerman
Last thing I want on my peaceful opening Mourning is my day ruined by a noisy drone flying around by someone too lazy to track a deer or a neighbor who thinks it might have gone to my woods.



So you would rather have a group of people walking through tracking and looking for blood? Myself I would rather have a drone fly over.


Wouldn't be much of a neighbor if they didn't check with you before trespassing.

Re: Deer recovery drone, opinions [Re: warrior] #8048038
01/13/24 11:53 AM
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We do not have a thermal drone, but our neighbor just purchased one. They lost a young kid's buck (lil 8 pt), and they found the remains a few days later, to try to avert that as has happened to us as well they purchased one for recovery. They are pretty straight guys so I respect that but do I think they may use it to scout, possibly? All together they have around 2700 acres, plus an additional 2000 acres a ways away. They have helped 9 hunters recover a deer this fall and did not find 3, that makes it worth it, I think. I believe the drone cost around $5000.00.

Re: Deer recovery drone, opinions [Re: warrior] #8048044
01/13/24 11:57 AM
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I think the biggest problem is that you have different CO’s interpreting laws differently. Have the operators pass a certification class and learn the laws before they can fly. You could check a lot of traps with a drone.


Looks like he needs another year;-)
Re: Deer recovery drone, opinions [Re: warrior] #8048050
01/13/24 12:00 PM
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Technology advances much quicker than legislation. Here in Wisconsin the laws about using drones with thermal imaging were recently clarified (if you can call it that) to distinguish between pursuing/hunting versus recovery. There are so many requirements that need to be followed that it's nearly impossible to do it legally in my eyes, but guys are still doing it. For example, you have to stay within line of sight of the drone, it can't be done during legal shooting hours, the drone operator can't have a vested interest in the recovery, and the animal must be dead.

If the animal (I should say big buck, because who is going to pay $3-400 to recover a small buck or doe) isn't dead when the drone operator finds it, they can't relay any information about the location of the wounded animal to the hunter or they've both participated in using aircraft to pursue/hunt game.

How is a recovery fee not a vested interest for the drone operator?

How high does the drone have to fly for the operator to cover a 40 acre parcel if he's parked on the side of the road next to 50' tall trees while having to maintain a line of sight with the drone? How many of the recovery videos do you see the operator lowers the drone to get a positive ID on the animal?

Re: Deer recovery drone, opinions [Re: SNIPERBBB] #8048069
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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
As noted in the article they are legal here in Ohio, I drive by a few places that offer thermal drone recoveries. I dont really have a problem with them, though I think if you want to make a fair-chase argument, they perhaps should be limited to say after shooting time to midnight. Seems like most deer recoveries are done for deer that are shot towards the end of shooting time anyways.

Just wish people would learn how and where to shoot deer and not have to use such services but i hate wasting animals more.

You have identified the real problem We as hunters have replaced good ethical hunting methods that makes each animal we attempt to shoot a trophy that is deserving of respect and fair treatment from all hunters .We have many now flinging arrows and shooting any number of shoots and an animal that is out of range or is not presenting a lethal shot Woodman ship and knowledge have been replaced by self appointed experts Most of which have little or no knowledge Now say they are experts because they did something one time Technology is a good thing but not if it is used to replace the loss of common sense

Re: Deer recovery drone, opinions [Re: GREENCOUNTYPETE] #8048074
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Originally Posted by GREENCOUNTYPETE
your not hunting if you put the gun or bow away , your searching for your wounded and possibly dead game

why let it go to waste


some law that states you can't fly and hunt after till sun rise the next morning would be plenty fair

heck take a knife to finish it

you should finish what you started

I agree.


More and more when I go anywhere I find myself keeping track of where the nearest rest room is.
Re: Deer recovery drone, opinions [Re: w side rd 151] #8048080
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.We have many now flinging arrows and shooting any number of shoots and an animal that is out of range [/quote]

Where did you come up with this golden nugget of info?
crazy


swampgas chili and schmidt beer makes for a deadly combo

You have to remember that 1 out of 3 Democratic Voters is just as dumb as the other two.
Re: Deer recovery drone, opinions [Re: Turtledale] #8048199
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Originally Posted by Turtledale
I'm for less technology and more boots on the ground, learn to take more ethical shots, and improve tracking/recovery skills with your own senses

If this becomes common place the price of the technology for it will come down and more people will certainly start abusing it.

Every recovery I've heard of or seen is for a large buck but not a doe or small buck, head hunters imo

This will also lead to people making marginal shots assuming they can recover with a drone later!

For the OP's question of opinions I'm against drone recovery


agree

Re: Deer recovery drone, opinions [Re: warrior] #8048345
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I don't understand why a human being is concerned at all about "wasting" when they cannot find an animal. Nothing goes to waste if you can't find a poorly hit deer. Coyotes, fox, possum, crow, buzzards, worms. They won't let any of it go to waste.

Re: Deer recovery drone, opinions [Re: warrior] #8048365
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Bucks and bears, unfortunately, the mindset of many has changed with the idea of ethical shot decisions. Now many are stating with the range of bows, crossbows, and the large cut of expandable broadheads I am hearing more and more just put a large broadhead in them and then start looking, most rely on dogs or now drones. The end result be darned. Bow shots out to 100 yards and crossbow further. Sad but it is happening.

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