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High dose vitamin D3 #8056522
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Ive been reading up on this the last few days. Some of what ive read is how the US has created the fictitious D3 overdose to keep people going to doctors and lining big pharma’s pockets. A doctor in Brazil claims he has reversed damage from MS and has the mri’s to prove it. Curious is anyone on here has experimented with this?

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if it's a conspiracy, it has to be true. Why is everybody so gullible?? Everybody wants to go to that powerhouse of medicine, Brazil, for their incredible medical care.

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You get vitamin d naturally from sun exposure. So I less you have extremely sensitive skin and can't go outside, most people probably dont need supplemental D

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Except if you live where you don't get much sun for part of the year!


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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
You get vitamin d naturally from sun exposure. So I less you have extremely sensitive skin and can't go outside, most people probably dont need supplemental D

In winter time people don't get near as much sun as they stay indoors more. Thus, take the supplement.

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Originally Posted by Dean Chapel
if it's a conspiracy, it has to be true. Why is everybody so gullible?? Everybody wants to go to that powerhouse of medicine, Brazil, for their incredible medical care.


Well the country sure jumped on board with a vaccine that people are finally getting around to blaming for a lot of death. Unless you think thats a conspiracy too? Im trusting md’s less and less as i deal with them more.

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I just popped 2 of em. Take 1 one tomorrow.

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Eat a healthy, balanced diet. All things in moderation. Don't listen to one doctor in Brazil. We have our own quacks right here.

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When I say high dose, Im talking 70-100k iu. An amount many md’s claim is harmful.

Re: High dose vitamin D3 [Re: DWC] #8056661
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Your Dr. can check your vitamin D when you do labwork. I have mine checked every time and it will tell you if you need to take a supplement or not. Getting to much vitamin D can cause other issues so I would discuss it with your dr. after you see how your vitamin D levels are.


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Great advice. I get a full blood panel at least once a year.

Originally Posted by victor#0
Your Dr. can check your vitamin D when you do labwork. I have mine checked every time and it will tell you if you need to take a supplement or not. Getting to much vitamin D can cause other issues so I would discuss it with your dr. after you see how your vitamin D levels are.

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Originally Posted by charles
Eat a healthy, balanced diet. All things in moderation. Don't listen to one doctor in Brazil. We have our own quacks right here.


You still following the advice of the worlds biggest quack Dr??? Faucci???


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I have MS and my doctor has me on vitamin D3. Told him I spend a lot of time outside so why do I need to take it. He's reply was we can't get enough from the sun.


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I live in Texas, work in a hay field and I was still low on Vitamin D. I like the bottles mixed with K2, about 10 drops.


Originally Posted by 20scout
I have MS and my doctor has me on vitamin D3. Told him I spend a lot of time outside so why do I need to take it. He's reply was we can't get enough from the sun.

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Originally Posted by victor#0
Your Dr. can check your vitamin D when you do labwork. I have mine checked every time and it will tell you if you need to take a supplement or not. Getting to much vitamin D can cause other issues so I would discuss it with your dr. after you see how your vitamin D levels are.


This is the right advice.

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Most Dr's now agree that 10,000 IU's per day is not excessive. Most all suggest at least 5,ooo per day. Nobody can get enough Vit D from sun exposure.

Blood testing is a good idea if you are concerned. You will need to take a lot of Vit D to overdose.

Vit D works much better when in conjunction with K2. Many companies offer it in that form.

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Originally Posted by victor#0
Your Dr. can check your vitamin D when you do labwork. I have mine checked every time and it will tell you if you need to take a supplement or not. Getting to much vitamin D can cause other issues so I would discuss it with your dr. after you see how your vitamin D levels are.


This!

Doesn’t matter what your diet is or how much sun you get. You MAY still have low vitamin D. Simple blood test will show if you are low, normal or high. This blood test can be run when you have other tests, so no additional needles.

If you do take vitamin D you need to have it checked regularly (1-4 times per year). Most drugs are metabolized through the liver or kidneys and excessive levels are flushed out of the body. Not vitamin D. Any excess is stored in your body fat, too much can lead to vitamin D toxicity, which carries its own complications and can be serious.

Also, vitamin D levels fluctuate slowly, so any benefits will happen over time.

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My wife has MS and always test extremely low in Vit D, even on prescription strength D it never gets to the "normal" level... blood tests will tell but you usually have to request they add it to the other blood tests.
I don't know how much is too much, I do know the approved levels have been increased by the FDA

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Originally Posted by 20scout
I have MS and my doctor has me on vitamin D3. Told him I spend a lot of time outside so why do I need to take it. He's reply was we can't get enough from the sun.

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Fibro and other issues. My Dr tests my d3 levels I was so low put me on rx then once it brought it up put me on a high dose of d3 everyday indefinitely. Now my d3 are barely in range but in normal range.

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I used to take 10,000 IU, I now take 20,000. two pills.
I experimented with them and found out I feel better with 20,000 than 10,000 during the winter, In summer I back off to 10,000

Here in Alaska, we dont get much sun, and I have read that people living on tropical islands still had low Vitamin D levels. Most people dont walk around naked to get the full benefit of the sun.

Wearing sunglasses can also block it.

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I was born with a small hole in my heart and the doctor said to sun bathe me for an hour a day to help my heart heal. Probably before D3 was available. That was 82 years ago and now I have a pacemaker but no hole! I ran hard in my younger years and put away wet living my bucket list....lol.


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Many of our foods today lack vitamins and essential minerals. Vitamin D was one of the ones that really helps the immune system fight off things like covid. Combinations of C, D, and zinc were very common the last few years as supporters of immune health to resist getting infections. Foods like salmon, trout, tuna, and eggs all help with vitamin D and fortified (non-natural) foods like milk. Around 43-45% of the US population is deficient in vitamin D.

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Originally Posted by yukonjeff
I used to take 10,000 IU, I now take 20,000. two pills.
I experimented with them and found out I feel better with 20,000 than 10,000 during the winter, In summer I back off to 10,000

Here in Alaska, we dont get much sun, and I have read that people living on tropical islands still had low Vitamin D levels. Most people dont walk around naked to get the full benefit of the sun.

Wearing sunglasses can also block it.


I recently went to 10,000 from 5,000 and plan to go up to 20,000 along with k2. Some of what Im reading has people in the 40,000 to 60,000 range and talks about 100,000 a day for a dew days then back down. Im reading claims of all kinds of ailments being cured from this.
What exactly feels better to you?

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Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
You get vitamin d naturally from sun exposure. So I less you have extremely sensitive skin and can't go outside, most people probably dont need supplemental D

I have a buddy that owns a roofing company and does most of the jobs. He tested low for Vitamin D. It’s actually more common than you think. My wife is outside most every day and is extremely low. The lack of Vitamin D has been linked to many illnesses, including bipolar. Heck, I’m outside 365 days a year and was on the low side of normal. So NO you don’t get all you need from the sun. And for the record none of us went to Brazil or had foreign Docs.

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Every one needs vitamin d in the winter, that's why the cold n flu is worse then.
We were taking 2,000 iu, nurse told use to only take 1000iu

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I used to be a big vitamin nut. Now, after years of research reading and talking to many nutrition experts, I think many people overdose on vitamins. Many vitamins and minerals don’t have all the ingredients or amount of ingredients they say they do.

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Drs complaint is that too much D3 gives you too much calcium in the blood I think?

I think thats what I remember. Pretty sure my dads Dr told him to lay off the D3 and high calcium OJ after one of his recent blood pulls as his calcium was too high. Was factoring into his heart A-fib or something.


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Originally Posted by Grandpa Trapper
I used to be a big vitamin nut. Now, after years of research reading and talking to many nutrition experts, I think many people overdose on vitamins. Many vitamins and minerals don’t have all the ingredients or amount of ingredients they say they do.


If they don't have all the ingredients or amount of ingredients how does someone overdose?


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Many of the vitamins pass through the body and are in readily useable forms. I do remember reading research about this. Again, healthy eating of natural foods is best.

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Originally Posted by DWC
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I used to take 10,000 IU, I now take 20,000. two pills.
I experimented with them and found out I feel better with 20,000 than 10,000 during the winter, In summer I back off to 10,000

Here in Alaska, we dont get much sun, and I have read that people living on tropical islands still had low Vitamin D levels. Most people dont walk around naked to get the full benefit of the sun.

Wearing sunglasses can also block it.


I recently went to 10,000 from 5,000 and plan to go up to 20,000 along with k2. Some of what Im reading has people in the 40,000 to 60,000 range and talks about 100,000 a day for a dew days then back down. Im reading claims of all kinds of ailments being cured from this.
What exactly feels better to you?


I felt in a better mood.

Low Vitamin D puts people in a bad mood. I had an office job once and the workers got really irritated and combative to one another during the dark part of the winter.

If you are walking around the house all grumpy and dont know why, its probably low Vitamin D, or a high carb diet has the same effect of projecting grouchiness.

As far as overdosing Vitimin D, its just oil from a sheep's skin, so dont think it can cause serious problems. Like most vitamins any excess is peed out. In fact most vitamins are locked and unavailable from a pill and vegies both.

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I had a nutrition professor make the comment that Americans have the most expensive urine in the world. From all the mega doses of water soluble vitamins we pee out daily. If a thimbleful is all the body can use at a time the other two gallons are just voided.

However, vitamin D is a fat soluble vitamin so the body doesn't void it very fast.

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Vitamins are a scam. You pee most of it out.

Even the vitamins in vegies are locked and humans wont get most the high iron thats in spinach, or the vitamin C in fruit.

You will get it when its in a meat protein form though. That kind of shows we were meat eaters and not grazers. A cow will get fat on grass, but a human will starve to death on a vegie diet.

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I have health issues and see a Cardiologist as well as an Endocrinologist every other month. My Cardiologist I am using now actually corresponds with the one I used in WV since he is the one who performed my Heart Surgeries. My file is 711 pages long. I just found that out last month. Neither one of them push vitamins and BOTH just make me keep a log of my meals and what I drink and alter things from that. Guess what, they BOTH want me to keep up with the lemon water I have always used. One gallon spring water and one lemon sliced. Nothing else.


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My wife read up on it. She was hurting and felt like she was catching a cold everyday. She started taking a general supplement of vitamin D and K and she's feeling way better now.


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Originally Posted by Mando
Originally Posted by SNIPERBBB
You get vitamin d naturally from sun exposure. So I less you have extremely sensitive skin and can't go outside, most people probably dont need supplemental D

In winter time people don't get near as much sun as they stay indoors more. Thus, take the supplement.

^yes, this

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