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To bless Abraham's seed. #8063682
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What does this mean?


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Re: To bless Abraham's seed. [Re: Giant Sage] #8063685
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It was a promise from God to make Abraham have a huge number of descendants. It appears to have happened as there are likely many million descendants of Abraham. I am traceably descended from both Ishmael and Isaac.

Keith

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Re: To bless Abraham's seed. [Re: KeithC] #8063735
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Originally Posted by KeithC
It was a promise from God to make Abraham have a huge number of descendants. It appears to have happened as there are likely many million descendants of Abraham. I am traceably descended from both Ishmael and Isaac.

Keith



That's unbelievable. I don't know what "traceably descended" means, but there's no certainty that Ishmael and Isaac were real people, as opposed to mythological. How do you trace DNA to mythological people?

Furthermore, any records of descent were almost certainly lost, along with most other writings of any kind, during the Dark Ages. the Bible was one of the few works that survived.

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Re: To bless Abraham's seed. [Re: Giant Sage] #8063746
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www.familysearch.org has millions of people traceable back to Abraham and back to Adam and Eve even. I do suspect a lot of the older records may be inaccurate, because they are based on oral tradition, from milienia ago, but they are there just the same.

The Family Search website contains more than 8 billion names, 3.2 billion digital images, and almost half a million digitized books. Over 1 million new records are added each day. Setting up an account is free and they never try to sell you anything. It is the largest genealogy database in existence. I recommend setting up an account. The original document records you can pull up are invaluable for genealogy.

Keith

Re: To bless Abraham's seed. [Re: Giant Sage] #8063827
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Doesn’t seem to be very reliable if you have an account you can edit the “family tree”. It is run by the church of LDS. Eric

Re: To bless Abraham's seed. [Re: Giant Sage] #8063841
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Phoney baloney.
However it has been genetically proven that 1 in 5 people in Europe are direct decendents of Otzi.

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Originally Posted by KeithC
It was a promise from God to make Abraham have a huge number of descendants. It appears to have happened as there are likely many million descendants of Abraham. I am traceably descended from both Ishmael and Isaac.

Keith

That's cool Keith, don't worry bout Jimmy ( mommies boy) whine baby. At least Boco can at least talk a good line.

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Re: To bless Abraham's seed. [Re: Giant Sage] #8063961
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Sorry I took so long to respond,
I had a pile of coyotes to skin. Anyway I guess I should have said " to bless Abraham's sead acording to biblical interpretation.


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Re: To bless Abraham's seed. [Re: Giant Sage] #8063973
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Let me expand.
To bless Abraham's seed singular. Not as in many
Acording to Galatians ch 3 see ch3:16


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Re: To bless Abraham's seed. [Re: Giant Sage] #8063980
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Well DNA traces us all back to one mother in Africa science believe it or not.

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Originally Posted by danvee
Well DNA traces us all back to one mother in Africa science believe it or not.


Prove it. I call BS.


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Lots of evidence out there that Hebrew may indeed be the oldest spoken/written language.
Older than Sumerians and Aramaic.


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They did get DNA from Otzi no DNA from Abraham

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I've heard that danvee.
That would make sense biblically. Egipt was a great nation of trade In the days of Jacob.
The Midionites who were third generation from Abraham's 2nd wife were traders.
They pulled Joseph out of the pit that his loving brothers though him to into and sold him some ishmaelites that took him and sold him in Egyp.
That region would have been a real melting pot of intermingling a real milkshake.
Most of us probably have DNA from Abraham Issac and ishmael since they descended from Noah.
That is if they existed as James said earlier.


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Re: To bless Abraham's seed. [Re: Giant Sage] #8064026
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What about the recent DNA they have done in central/south America? They give them Balkan area origins.
Truth is, our DNA is all mixed up. No way one can prove where Homo sapiens originated from based on DNA. The Africa stuff is so 1980.


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Originally Posted by Chancey
Lots of evidence out there that Hebrew may indeed be the oldest spoken/written language.
Older than Sumerians and Aramaic.

Chancy ,
Biblical after the flood the whole world was of 1 language, if that language was Hebrew that would make sense.
Besides someone bad to make the coffee. grin


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I'm still wondering?
How does one bless Abraham's seed.


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Re: To bless Abraham's seed. [Re: Giant Sage] #8064036
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"Abraham's seed"
I supposed it might depend on if you subscribe to the idea of "replacement theology" or not. I don't.

"British Israelims" and some other rather whacky ideas (including replacement proponents) imo, are merely veiled forms of antisemitism.


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Nimrod was the first world dictator. I think he is a precursor to what may happen here. He got his powers from the garments that God clothed Adam with.
He is a direct descendant from Ham, and great grandson of Noah.

I don't know what language they spoke in the Garden and before and after the flood, but it would not surprise me in the least that is was Hebrew.


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